PEMPTON BLUFF KNIGHT DEPOT INVENTORY:

PURE SILVER BULLET: $5 per bullet
PURE SILVER ARROW: $20 per arrow

PURE SILVER WEAPON: VARIABLE
Throwable weapons: $50 each
One handed weapons: $200
Two handed weapons: $400

SCARLET LIGHT ARMOR: $400
SCARLET HEAVY ARMOR: $1,000
SCARLET SILVER CHAIN: $10,000
SCARLET SILVER FULLPLATE: $40,000

QUICKSILVER VIAL: $100
Interrupts the casting of mages.
BASIC MIASMA ANTIDOTE: $25
For safely combating Poison mages
PURE WATER: $50.
Burns the undead, both ghosts and ghouls.

For a quest called "Magic West" I don't see much western aesthetic in the quest. It is supposed to be west as in the American west, right? The title font seems to indicate that.

>>364302
It's supposed to be set in a western type setting, but it's not set in the American Old West 'just with monsters and magic'.

Right now it's also still in the more fertile, civilized realm. Where Athena is, right now, is not the frontier. The only places that have appeared so far are the garden of the Scarlet Knights, and the Scarlet Knights Depot.

The main reason armor and swords are still a factor is mages. A sword can parry a magic spell, where a gun can't. So swordsmen are still around to handle mages who do things more complex than point their finger and shoot magic beams.

There's other things, like how you can't use pure water on bullets, since it evaporates, making ghosts difficult to fight from a comfortable range.

De-emphasizing guns so that swords (and bows) can somehow fit into the setting has been done before. A lot. Gunners with silver shields would've been a more interesting solution, for example. That isn't the big peeve I had with this, though.

The real main turnoff for me was the main character's outfit. It felt kinda gratuitous and out of place. Rather a mood breaker for me. I immediately skipped over the quest when I saw it. Pity, as I like the character design otherwise.

Ficus 2012/05/12(Sat)12:52 No. 54522 ID: 09e5bf
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Summary of the 4 basic types of mages

Fire - Flames
Fire/water - Alcohol/Tar
> Creates flammable liquids, good for sticking to people and spreading fires
Fire/air - Dreamcraft
> Creates gossamer items. They're solid as the real thing, but metals will dissipate them
Fire/earth - Smoke
> Creates smoke.
Fire/Spirit - Ghosts/undead
> Allows the mage to control and create Ghosts and Ghouls

Water - Water
Water/Air - Fog/Rain
> Allows the creation of Fog and Clouds
Water/Earth - Ice
> Allows for cold based magic
Water/Fire - Illusions
> Creates mirages and illusions
Water/Spirit - Blood/Buffs
> Allows the mage to strengthen himself and others

Air - Wind
Air/Earth - Poison/Miasma
> Creates noxious and corrosive gases.
Air/Fire - Lightning
> Creates electrivity
Air/Water - Sonic
> Creates powerful sound based attacks
Air/Spirit - Life/Healing
> Lets the use heal themselves and others

Earth - Rocks
Earth/Fire - Metal
> Allows the manipulation of Metal
Earth/Water - Dirt
> Allows the manipulation of Dirt and Clay
Earth/Air - Sand/Dust
> Allows the manipulation of Sand and Dust
Earth/Spirit - Plants
> Allows the manipulation of Plants

Oh, a note. An earth mage can't mess with rocks that he can't see beneath dirt. He would need a water subtype for that. The same goes for rocks under sand.

If he can see it through, it's fine to mess with..

>>364308

On the one hand, it's a little skeevy. On the other hand, we are clearly in the JRPG school of equipment design, and I can kinda get behind the cheapo sucky armor being all slutty and impractical, with later upgrades covering more.

As opposed to all those games which do it backwards.

Ficus 2012/05/12(Sat)13:29 No. 54526 ID: 09e5bf
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>>364325
>cheapo sucky armor being all slutty and impractical, with later upgrades covering more

I feel it's worth pointing out, this is generally how things work. The more armor people get, the more covered they become. Only MAGIC and theoretical MAD SCIENCE are capable of creating better armor with less coverings, unless by better you mean more nimble.

>>364326
That armor isn't all that impractical, assuming common fighting styles are used, like fencing or that European style that escapes me. The most common place to get hit in a swordfight is the shoulder and the hip facing your opponent, and the calves. Two of those are armored and the third is also a sword.

>>364326
>sword feet

Uh... okay, this is a question I should be asking Lucid about Nedynvor too, but... how does she keep her balance?

>>364333
neds have HUGE TAILS. and i bet them antenne have something to do with it.

Example Skills:
Mage
Fencing
Demolition
Survivalist
Athleticism
Climbing
Scavenger
Farmer
Hunter
Cooking
Musical Talent
Thievery
Sneakery
Alchemy
Wrangling
Horse Riding
Herbalism
Blacksmithing
Carpentry

This list is by no means comprehensive.

>>364344
An addendum, the following are examples of combat skills

Rifleman
Gunslinger
Swordsman
Brawler
Archer

Ficus 2012/05/12(Sat)20:43 No. 54560 ID: 09e5bf
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Because I keep drawing Laruut in my free time, here's a good example of how their legs bend. And it does a better job of showing how they have peg legs rather than sword legs.

Its a bit meta but I am getting the feeling we are not going to kill rene...

>>364364
clearly that means we need to kill him extra hard, just to be sure.

Some questions:
- Can a dreamcraft mage create functional guns (or at least loaded crossbows)?
- Do summoned bojects have the same weight and strength of their non-magical counterparts? (So a sword would weight as much as and break from the same amount of force as a normal sword.)
- Can a mage reshape already summoned items?
- Is the silver these guys use as soft and heavy as our world's silver? (Guessing no, because earth silver is horrible for weapons for those reasons.)

In case anyone's interest perks up at the Race selection, here they are; the Major Races or Magic West.

Major races:
Humans - Archer, René, and the barkeep are all humans
Naga - The example earth mage is a Naga
Satyr - The example water mage is a Satyr
Laruut - Athena is a Laruut
Lizardfolk - Thunderfoot is a Lizardfolk
Harpies - Paul, the clerk at the Knight Depot is a Harpy
Gnolls - a yet unnamed Gnoll can be seen on the wanted posters
Catfolk
Giants

No Catfolk, or Giants have yet appeared.

>>364368
As in, I am thinking rene is the main character.
We named him and designed his character (choosing class, powers, etc). (plus he is more interesting and not a fanatic) unlike the person we started following.

> Some questions:
Some answers

> Can a dreamcraft mage create functional guns (or at least loaded crossbows)?
Yes, starting at the Average level. As a beginner dreamcrafter, René can at best make bullets and bolts.

One thing to note, these are still dissipated by metal, so they aren't particularly useful in a normal steel gun.

>Do summoned bojects have the same weight and strength of their non-magical counterparts? (So a sword would weight as much as and break from the same amount of force as a normal sword.)
Yes, unless specifically made otherwise. Beginner Dreamcrafters are more or less rooted to reality though.

> Can a mage reshape already summoned items?
Yes, though it is little different than creating a new one

> Is the silver these guys use as soft and heavy as our world's silver? (Guessing no, because earth silver is horrible for weapons for those reasons.)
Correct, PURE SILVER is an alchemical creation which is both light and tough as well made steel.

Every time I scroll down the first page and see René in the latest update, I stop scrolling.

Pretty sure that's a good sign.


I do think it's a bit odd that blacksmithing worked out to be his average skill and note magecraft. I reckon that must be some kind of a backstory thing that we'll get into at some point.

how big is the dissipation / deflection area?
Can a mage cast a fireball made out of countless independent flames such that a silver sword and armor only deflect the what they touch and it burns the unprotected eyes and ears and nostrils and any non metal covered piece of flesh the target has?

I am guessing not until very high level else mages would be unstopable.

Also, at what distance can a mage create something? (could he not create a 1 inch diameter flame 1mm away from an opponent's eye to bypass metal protections?)

And if they cannot create flame at a distance and must throw it, how fast can it travel and how good is their aim? (could you make it whip shaped and fly in perfect precision to hit someone in the eye?)

>>364503
>how big is the dissipation / deflection area?
Depends on the effect. Right now, Rene is a weak dreamcrafter, so his simple dreamcrafts are popped by metal like a bubble. The more powerful dreamcrafters have more resilient items; metal might burn their items like they were paper, or wood.

Rene's fire can be cut by PURE SILVER weaponry, while a normal sword would find the task as difficult as actually cutting an equivalent sized fire. A bat could do smash it, but a sword wouldn't be very useful. PURE SILVER armor would blunt the force of the attack, but a flamethrower style spell would still cook the person inside, even if it's slower than if they were unarmored or in steel armor.

>Can a mage cast a fireball made out of countless independent flames such that a silver sword and armor only deflect the what they touch and it burns the unprotected eyes and ears and nostrils and any non metal covered piece of flesh the target has?
Kind of. It'd basically have to be a scatter shot of fireballs. Can Rene do this? Not right now. He can only shoot one fireball at a time, (though could theoretically have multiple out at once if he throws them fast enough), and it's not all that big. It's slightly smaller than a baseball.

Now, this is just in relation to his existing spell. He could make the equivalent of a handful of marbles attack, and throw a bunch of tiny flames at people if he worked on it. But he can't do it mid fight without DRAMATIC GROWTH (being growth that is related to drama, not growth that is of dramatic size), or practice.

>I am guessing not until very high level else mages would be unstoppable.
Correct. Starting mages have cool tricks, and will have a definite advantage over similarly skilled non-mages, but they aren't unstoppable for it. Rene can still be shot or stabbed, and people can still deal with being burned. Right now he has some protection fromt he FLAME AURA, which actually protects his hands and feet slightly when he uses it.

> Also, at what distance can a mage create something?
Since we are going on about fire mages still, I'll use them as an example. as a Rank 1 mage, Rene can create fires in his hand and throw them. An example of high level fire magic is Sun Rain, which creates scorching balls of flame which appear to fall from the sun across a wide area. A subtle use could be making something burst into flames from say, a few hundred yards away. There would be a sign of the attack somewhere though. Like a crack of energy or swell of heat just before it bursts into flame.

>(could he not create a 1 inch diameter flame 1mm away from an opponent's eye to bypass metal protections?)
No. he could not, assuming you are talking about PURE SILVER armor. He not only needs to see where the fire is created, but PURE SILVER interrupts magic.

>And if they cannot create flame at a distance and must throw it, how fast can it travel and how good is their aim? (could you make it whip shaped and fly in perfect precision to hit someone in the eye?)
Rene can throw fire like he could throw a ball. he has some innate familiarity with it, but would need practice to get unique effects like a curve ball or a slider.

There's no such thing as perfect precision which hits people in the eye every time. Even a necromancer who creates will-o'-the-wisp fire balls that chased people down and actively dodged deflection would not have a perfect infallible attack.

So why is it that nobody seems to do things like putting a thin sheet of PURE SILVER over a wooden sheild, or making PURE SILVER mesh? Are thin pieces of PURE SILVER less effective?

Can dreamcrafters make chemicals, such as, say, gunpowder or deadly neurotoxin poison?

>Even a necromancer who creates will-o'-the-wisp fire balls that chased people down and actively dodged deflection would not have a perfect infallible attack.
But I bet he would be hella obnoxious to fight.

>>364507
Thanks for the answers. Great info.

>(could he not create a 1 inch diameter flame 1mm away from an opponent's eye to bypass metal protections?)
>No. he could not, assuming you are talking about PURE SILVER armor. He not only needs to see where the fire is created, but PURE SILVER interrupts magic.
To clarify, I meant bypass the armor by aiming at the holes. That is, the helmet will have holes for mouth and eyes. If you can see flesh through those holes, could you burn it or does just wearing the armor confer innate resistance even to uncovered areas?

Also, Can rene make himself immune to mundane fire? (enemy wearing silver armor? set the BUILDING on fire :P... I used that trick to great effect in some PnP DND games)

If you summon oil, and then set the summoned oil on fire. Is the fire mundane or magical? (might wanna do an experiment to find out using with a silver coated cup full of water and a thermometer.)

>So why is it that nobody seems to do things like putting a thin sheet of PURE SILVER over a wooden sheild, or making PURE SILVER mesh? Are thin pieces of PURE SILVER less effective?
Even PURE SILVER does take damage from magical attacks. if the metal is too thin, it risks breaking from damage. And a mesh would lets some attacks through. While it does disrupt the magical force behind a fireball, a mesh isn't saving anyone from the heat.

>Can dreamcrafters make chemicals, such as, say, gunpowder or poison?
Items that are familiar to the dreamcrafter are the easiest to make, followed by those with the easiest reasoning, or simplest effect. For René, this means a functional bullet would be easy, while a barrel of gunpowder or even a vial of poison would still be out of his reach right now. Or rather, if he did make one, he would have little basis upon which it would work. The barrel could pop and snap like tiny firecrackers, while the 'deadly' poison may be simply bitter, and cause a rash.

If he was as good at demolitions as he is at gun-fighting or music, it would be reasonable for him to use his fire magic and dreamcrafting together to create functional dynamite. As it is, he'll need stronger magic to bear the weight of his lack of experience.

As far as poison, even high rank dreamcrafters generally focus on poisonous animals rather than a direct poison, generally finding it easier to craft useful poisons when it's part of a creature that exists in the world or legends.

That said, an actual poison mage will always be capable of stronger and more fantastic effects than a dreamcrafter. Where a dreamcrafter might make poison that makes the target ill, or in pain upon blood contact, a Poisonmage of equal strength could forma miasma that makes people hallucinate or that eats through a specific material.

>But I bet he would be hella obnoxious to fight.
Indeed he would.

>To clarify, I meant bypass the armor by aiming at the holes. That is, the helmet will have holes for mouth and eyes. If you can see flesh through those holes, could you burn it or does just wearing the armor confer innate resistance even to uncovered areas?
Solid enough armor does confer protection to openings. Chainmail protects the gaps between the chain links, mesh would not.

>Also, Can rene make himself immune to mundane fire? (enemy wearing silver armor? set the BUILDING on fire :P... I used that trick to great effect in some PnP DND games)
Yes. But at this point, he would have trouble using magical fire at the same time as he is immune to mundane fire.

>If you summon oil, and then set the summoned oil on fire. Is the fire mundane or magical? (might wanna do an experiment to find out using with a silver coated cup full of water and a thermometer.)
Dreamcraft oil set on fire is still magical. Even if the fire was mundane. Rene is not skilled enough to root his summons in reality to the point that they could be considered mundane. His oil also doesn't splash properly, or leave residue as it runs past things.

In comparison, a rank 1 Fire/Water mage's oil attacks splash, move and burn as real oil would. giving off mundane heat, as well as the stronger magical heat.

I guess you probably know this, but those numbers are nowhere near historical. A solid revolver would have run from about $30 to $45 at the very most. A bullet for the Colt 1830 would be 17¢, which was about half a day's wages.

>>364525
He already said that $1 in the quest is equivalent to the modern value of $1 in reality.

>>54723
Are mages with a primary Spirit type a thing? If not, why not?

>>54832
Yes. There are Spirit primary mages.

The characters are so cuuuuuute!!! ^.V.^

Ficus 2012/05/17(Thu)20:19 No. 54878 ID: 09e5bf
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Early sketch from the latest update showing how harpy legs work, apart from the claws.

>>54878
did someone say dressup doll?

dogmeat 2012/05/18(Fri)06:36 No. 54907 ID: 80d422
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>>54878
>harpies

Sekani 2012/05/18(Fri)11:01 No. 54914 ID: d6ae01
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>>54878
"So that's what'd happen if we had children."

>>/quest/410618
>dat ass!
>>/quest/410620
>dem tits!
Knight got back, knight got front... knight also has a pretty good build (check out those abs) and cute antennae and pretty eyes. (all 6 of them)

>>54914
No, that is not a horrific mutant abomination. It is a bird lady. There is a difference.

The intro here was completely fanservice-y, but I like this new dude. Nice clean aesthetic you have going with the art and the writing's clear and easy to read.

Out of curiosity, how long are you spending on these?

>>54919
Somewhere between 20 and 40 minutes per update.

Like the first two drawings took 20 minutes. I didn't pay as much attention to time after that.

Any race with a snout makes thing take slightly longer, since I'm not used to drawing them. Same with digitigrade legs. I've never really created a need to draw either of those before, and I'm much more familiar with drawing humans.

There was a bit of prep before the quest, to make this style, because I've never drawn like this specifically before. Like I'm used to always drawing fingers, or taking much more time on heads and hair.


But for reference, this is a 20 minute drawing. >>54560

BASIC GOSSAMER TUTORIAL

René uses a supply of Gossamer to craft items with magic. Each item he creates burns at least one Gossamer. Note that he can create small bundles of cheap items as a group for only 1 if he wants to. The BOUQUET OF ROSES is a bundle of distinct flowers, with a separate paper holder. He could take it apart just as one could a real bouquet.

As a starting Dreamcrafter, René has 10 Gossamer for a day. This number can be raised by raising René's Mage skill. Other methods may exist, but are not commonly known.

He can regain Gossamer by dreaming. Day dreaming refreshes a little, but the big way to do it is going to sleep for the night, which replenishes ALL of René's Gossamer.

>>54918
>>54919
René is way more attractive than Athena, though.

>>54920
I know this is tgchan, but you don't have to draw furries if you don't want to.

>>54952
How much gossamer would a siesta regain?

>>54953
> I know this is tgchan, but you don't have to draw furries if you don't want to.

I know I could have made an all human quest, or one with more human-like races, or even monster-people races, but I didn't want to. I'm not against drawing furries, I'm just not used to them, probably because I do generally prefer drawing humans over everything else.

I largely put them in as a challenge for myself. Same with needing to make a new style to draw in, the whole speed drawing aspect, the daily update schedule, and to varying degrees, drawing backgrounds.

>How much gossamer would a siesta regain?

Apart from a good, full rest giving an absolute return of everything, not many numbers are concrete. René gets back about 1 or 2 an hour right now, during which he must let his mind wander, and can't really pay attention to his surroundings. Being outright asleep speeds up the process.

wryt 2012/05/19(Sat)04:04 No. 54956 ID: f04e7d
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Reading this quest was like reading one of those porn comics with the two girls kissing on the cover that turns out to be about a bunch of fat creepers, except that instead of girls kissing you had Athena Tannis and instead of fat creepers you got to watch a guido play a dating sim.

>>54956
.........I'm sorry. where the flying dutchman is there ANYTHING that would make you think that friend? So far, this has been one of the most innocent quests I've seen so far.

>>54987
I am not able to apprehend how you could have missed the fact that he was making an analogy.

>>54994
Sorry, sorry. I'm really not too bright. Just forget I said anything.

>>54995
Don't worry about it. I just flat out don't know what the fuck he's talking about, and I've read all the porn comics.

>>55006
Yeah, I was confused a bit too, I just came off as a little overzealous I guess. Thanks though. Anyway, Rene and Florence make the cutest little couple! ^.V.^

Is the Crow Kingdom intended to be analogous to the real life Crow Nation?

>>55091
No. At least not on purpose. Any Similarities between the Crow Kingdom and Crow Nation are purely accidental.

I must admit I was not even aware of the Crow Nation until just now.

>>55091
Hmm? Why, whats the crow nation?

>>55099
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crow_Nation
There's no reason you couldn't have just looked it up, you know.

I can't be the only one hoping Crow Kingdom lass is Athena in disguise.

>>55113
that would require some heavy magic seeing as her JAW is different.

>>55103
You're abosolutely right. Sorry Cruxador.

>>/quest/415395
So... how are we planning on collecting the bounty for this guy? If we bring him into the office, he can just tell them that we are a mage. Even if we kill him, he already has one burn wound we would have to explain.

beat him up so his blood covers the burns. also calling the guy who brought you in a mage? sounds like a plan to get out of jail.

>>55170
Bind and gag him, then go in a disguise. Doesn't matter if they find out we're a mage eventually as long as we get paid and split before that happens.

That said, we might be allying with him instead.

This could become relevant soon, so I'm going to put it here for clarity:

Health in Magic West works based on MANLY GRIT, rather than being entirely based on wounds. Injuries happen, and wounds will generally affect the victim, but blood loss is a thing that happens to normal people.

Lets say René cut Branson from shoulder to waist. This would very much hurt Branson, and could in fact kill him if it's deep enough. But bandage him up, and Branson could go into another fight mostly unhindered, but at risk of his wounds opening up. And he might get a scar from the wound over time.

A healer would let him go into the next fight fine, and remove the risk of scaring. A blood mage would really only be able to help him be stronger in the next fight, or to stem bleeding without restoring his manly grit.

-----------------------

And people had some specific questions on the IRC, so I'll post those answers here:

> Can a Dreammage make something similar to blood for oxygen-carrying? Hell, even saline would be useful.

Not right now. Eventually he will be able to, though it will be easiest to do so in the form of a conjured creature. And that brings with it the difficulty of actually transferring the blood. It would still have the metal weakness, and René doesn't have the technical knowledge to do such a thing.

>[Dreamcrafting]'s easier the more familiar he is with something, right?

Correct.

>But he doesn't actually have like, know how it works or anything, right?

He has to mostly know how it works, especially early on. For example, with a bullet he just has to know it gets hit by a hammer, that make the gunpowder explode, and the bullet flies out. The fire side of his powers helps make the actual explosion.

>If it was a car or something, for instance, or an animal, does he actually ahve to know how the insides go?

No, if he's stronger he can just be like "Deer" and make a deer, or "Car" and make an old-timey car. As he gets stronger, he can not only make bigger and better things, but can pull from other people's dreams, allowing him to compensate for knowledge he personally lacks.

>But like, if he was a mechanic or a butcher that would help theoretically to some degree?

Yes. An animal trainer or vet might be able to make animals as a beginner. A mechanic would be able to make more complex machines. Rene is a musician, so he can make more complex instruments.

... can he cast Summon Grand Piano?

>>55337
As he is right now? No

He would either need to familiarize himself with grand pianos, which wouldn't take too long considering his musical skill, or get stronger as a mage.

Even if he were to learn how to make them, he can only spend one gossamer as a quick casting, and and only create things at arm's length. So he would be making one at arm's reach on the ground over the course of about a minute.

>>55347
grandpiano on a stick then. he uses double points to make it go fast and while the stick is forming swings it. then the piano forms mid swing and momentum boost and BAM. PIANOED

>>55347
Okay, so basically only useful if he climbs a tree undetected above a stationary target. It could still be useful at some point, I reckon. But an anvil is probably a better bet, since it's a simple item so he can make it faster, and as a blacksmith he'll already be familiar with it.

>grandpiano on a stick then. he uses double points to make it go fast and while the stick is forming swings it. then the piano forms mid swing and momentum boost and BAM. PIANOED

You do realize a Grand Piano is bigger than René, right? Also, Rene doesn't know any technique for spending double points to make things faster.

>Okay, so basically only useful if he climbs a tree undetected above a stationary target. It could still be useful at some point, I reckon.

It's a nice way to get pianos into really weird spots.

An anvil is definitely doable. It's simple and familiar. The cost would vary based on the size of it. Not really practical for smithing, but it would have the weight of a real anvil. Basically he'd be making something heavy to throw at people. The main problem is René isn't particularly strong.

He could make a about a 50lb anvil for 1 gossamer.

>>55352
>It's a nice way to get pianos into really weird spots.
This means he can make a mint as a travelling one-man piano-mover.

>>55362
Well maybe, as long as we skip town before it disappears and never need to return there.

it wont vanish on its own. if someone tries to use a tuning fork though it will just pop.

also, be hilarious. a piano in a really small closet. impossible to get out as there is no room to maneuver at all so peeps just confused.

>>55352
The suggestion wasn't throwing it though. It was just making it appear above someone's head and letting gravity do the rest.

>>55373
We'd be better off selling the piano than moving it. But if we're gonna sell dreams to people we should go for things less obtrusive than pianos.

>>55380
>We'd be better off selling the piano than moving it.
But that's the beauty of it; we get paid twice! Once to move the 'piano', and again selling off their old one. Then skipping town with the double-profits before someone tries playing it wearing steel gauntlets or something.

>>55395
or tune it.

>>55397
Complementary illusory tuning fork.

Ficus 2012/05/29(Tue)07:06 No. 55442 ID: 09e5bf
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>>55416
There's a little more to a tuning kit than just the fork. People may get suspicious when you hand out complementary $50 tool kits with each moving job.

In other news, I have this fancy picture of what the Laruut originally looked like, before I revamped their race to be more human-like, and update friendly.

>>55395
And then they drop a spoon on it and it disappears and we get a bigger bounty, this time for an actual crime.

So far Rene has never committed a crime and can genuinely be said to be good.

>>55447
indeed, at the moment the only 'crime' he has is 'being a mage'

>>55442
Ooh, pretty.

okay seriously. is everyone voting to be buddy buddy friends because he isn't a COMPLETE asshole? if so we will end up NEVER turning in ANYONE. we will capture massive bounties and they will tell us a sob story and then you will want to be friends. and then they kill us and laugh while our guard is down and are in hug mode. branson stole shit not because he HAD to but because it was EASIER. he COULD of done other jobs, but DIDN'T!

>>55527

Great! That's pretty much the idea! We have our protagonist here living in a country with a government mandate to kill all mages on general principle, even if they are totally cool people who wouldn't hurt a fly and help out their community.

Said protagonist is a mage, guilty of no actually crimes, who just saw a bounty poster calling for his head, and a bunch of other people who happen to be mages, and isn't especially hard up for cash. Has an honest job, gets enough extra cash put away to buy presents for his family, has a unique skill that could net him plenty of cash in a hurry if needed.

Heading out looking for other mages to look into pooling resources to evade witch hunts and/or bring down the system that wants them dead seems like a plenty reasonable thing to do.

Selling people out in the same unjust boat as you (unless they really do seem like legitimate threats to society) is acting against your own best interests by making enemies out of potential allies you might need in the future, a total dick move, and kind of an unnecessary risk, because obviously someone who's totally on the anti-mage bandwagon has seen you, knows you are one, and has gone to the effort to put you on the hit list. Such a person, and anyone who's done any research on you, is likely to be around the sort of places you'd be turning other mages in.

>>55535
branson isn't a mage, he punches people, not magics them.

>>55527
It's not that he has a sob story. The problem is that minor thievery does not justify the death penalty.

>>55535
pretty much all of this.

>>55536
Very useful in fighting all those non mages who train and specialize in beating mages.
He is also the exception on the bounty list.

Plus there are plenty of REAL evil we could go after. Actual monsters.

I think we should recruit a bunch of other mages as well as sympathetic people and form a new town that is tolerant of mages.
Or if such a place already exists then get our family and relocate there ASAP.

>>55540
.. minor theivery? he's stolen TONS from an ASSLOAD of merchants. he had no reasons to steal other then he felt like it.

>>55541
Ok, medium thievery.
But it's not like he swindled thousands of seniors out of their retirement money (major thievery) or o

>>/quest/411872
>>/quest/411903
>>/quest/412342
>>/quest/418210
Shame on you rene.
Such a sweet girl, and here you are thinking of her as nothing but a piece of meat... a prospective notch on your belt. You aren't pursuing a serious relationship.
Tsk... what would your sister think if she knew that is how you view women?

>>55709
>Hobby: Womanizer

>>55735
Doesn't mean MrTT has to like it.

>>/quest/418463

IIRC birds substitute kissing with preening. just like the way you don't kiss your mother the way you kiss your girlfriend, birds groom their peers, mates and children in different spots.

I know this because a friend of mine made the mistake of regularly stroking her parrot along the back, which apparently is what mates do to each other, so the parrot now masturbates whenever she's around.

I'm also wonderıng if the harpy has a cloaca, i.e. asshole, urethra and vagina all in one, which is gross. not to mention you probably can't even motorboat her without choking on feathers or sneezing all over her chest... so romancing a harpy is probably a pointless endeavor.

>>55772
>so the parrot now masturbates whenever she's around.
ROFL!

>Biological reasons why romancing a harpy is bad idea
... yea, good points.
Also male birds don't have penises. They get sperm in by rubbing cloacas together with the female... which means penetrative sex is right out, as is a blow or handjob...
Could probably get creative though
Of course harpies could be of the furry variety in this world, aka, human reproductive organs

>Of course harpies could be of the furry variety in this world, aka, human reproductive organs

I'm going to give y'all a hint whether Harpies have bird bits or people bits.

I don't care about animal sex. Thinking about animal sex is on my list of things to do never.

Harpies are bird people instead of traditional harpies because I thought it'd be more interesting to try drawing wildly different faces, since I had never done so before. Otherwise pretty much every race would be Human or 'Human with funny bits added on'.

>$50 for tickets
>$1 is roughly worth what it is in modern day America.
So uh
Are we in the nosebleeds or is this just not the classiest theater? Or perhaps regional price variation is coloring my pricing perception? Because around here that's barely more than what you'd pay to get into your kid's school play. Even if it's $50 a head, that's towards the lower end of what I'd expect to pay for poor seats to a decent show.

>>55777
It's a small theatre on the second floor of a saloon. The town doesn't exactly have a big stage. If someone wants to see a big production, they'd take the train to Pempton Bluff, and catch something at the bigger, dedicated theatre there.

Also, around where I live, you could get tickets to a local play at a small theatre for about $18-$38.

>>55777
Regional price variation is coloring your pricing perception, I'd say. I've been to plays costing anywhere from $10 to $150 per ticket, depending upon how big the venue was, what city I was in, and what the seats were like. And, I might add, in my experience there hasn't been a terribly reliable relationship between price and quality.

>>55776
>I don't care about animal sex. Thinking about animal sex is on my list of things to do never.

Well, that's certainly a point in your favour despite running what seems to have turned into a bird dating sim. :V

I hope this is just an elongated setup for The Plot, because you've got a nice art style and atmosphere going, but there's not really anything compelling driving the characters yet.

>>55776
>I don't care about animal sex. Thinking about animal sex is on my list of things to do never.
Good to know. Point in your favor.
>>55782
>Bird dating sim
This is the fault of the posters really. He is trying not to railroad us.

>>55777
Man I don't think I've ever paid more than like $40 to go to a show at any of the venues in my area.

>Choose to play as a playboy
>Actually have an engaging date sequence
>And tasteful sex

Very well-done, bro!

>make her breakfast.
...Can you make functional food with dreamcrafting?

>>55886
Yes, though I was going to have him cook. It's better than dreamcraft food for now. (Like he might have trouble making sure everything tastes right, is at the correct temperature, smells right, and looks right. Dreamcraft food is otherwise fine for emergency rations if you don't have fillings or fake teeth.)

If anyone is curious, this was the gambling results list.

1 - +5
2 - 0
3 - -10
4 - -5
5 - +10
6 - +20
7 - -10
8 - 0
9 - +10
10 - -10

Silver Song may have kept René gambling a little long, but they only rolled 2 negative results with 20d10.

>>55933
Just ask Trout--I am ridiculously lucky, at times~ ~◕ w◕~

>>55886
Is this even healthy? Would touching metal cause atoms in your body to disappear because they were dreamcrafted?

>>55953
>Is this even healthy?
Not really? I mean, it wouldn't be as nutritious as real food. At least not without being an experienced dreamcrafter.

>Would touching metal cause atoms in your body to disappear because they were dreamcrafted?
No. No it would not.

CoffeeRadio 2012/06/10(Sun)11:53 No. 55957 ID: c640dc
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A little "fan art" for my brother Ficus. :D

rolled [2] [6] [12] [6] [7] [19] [12] [8] [21] [21] [21] [20]

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Let's play ROULETTE!
Ficus has the bets in mind,
Let's see what the numbers say!

>>>/quest/423002
>Also, I don't know why we didn't just shoot her when we had her tied up in conversation.
Because that would be fucking abhorrent?

>>56137
no, that would be if we stuck our penis in her.
if we shot her it would just be assault. maybe murder if we had good aim.

I've updated the wiki with a complete list of Rene's skills and inventory as of the end of the prologue.

http://tgchan.org/wiki/Magic_West

Cruxador 2012/06/21(Thu)03:11 No. 56293 ID: 72d49b
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René dreams of becoming a magical girl.

I'm glad I wasn't the only one who thought of her when he summoned the giant gun.

>>56293
I must admit I've never watched any of Madoka Magica. (and only know what that picture's from because I googled the image)

Just wanted to say that this quest is a ton of fun. Good job, Ficus.

>>/quest/426275
dammit Abeo

>>56297
Madoka Magica is a good show. Give it a look, will you?

>>/quest/426493
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0YCkDyBhdE
I just had to do this.

That bogeyman is getting super pretty. I like how you're using the aesthetic.

I'm the one who complained about Athena's outfit here. >>54508

I'm actualy enjoying this quest so far. It has some really good character designs going for it. Even the armor I complained about has some good stylistical points (though I still don't like it that much, but it's not that big a deal). And the current dream combat is a fun spin on the Oldest Game which I see used a lot in quests.

I should warn you that, if you do decide to watch it, Madoka is a pretty grim anime if not without its points of hope.

I felt a little bad about this update. Because the Bogeyman made his armies so they were unable to see him, but Rene didn't really have a way to know that :x

To be honest, if he was stronger, truth would have worked. He would have been able to sever the Bogeyman's armies from some of the conditions he put in when he made them.

>>56653
What happens makes sense, because truth relied on altering the bogeyman's summons, which Renee had already had trouble attempting.

As a side note, I am growing increasingly fond of the Bogeymom theory even though it is almost certainly wrong.

>>/quest/428072
Just kidding. It's not like René will have to go through something like that every time he improves his magic, yeah?

>>56653
You don't need to feel bad, now I really hate that Bogeyman. This is a good thing.

> 22:03:03 < Ficus> If you had someone beat or outlasted the bogeyman, I would have given you some of his blood as a prize
> 22:03:10 < Ficus> which would make summons immune to metal

LONG-TERM OBJECTIVE GET: Defeat a bogeyman.

Being able to make summons with no weakness will make us RIDICULOUSLY powerful.

>>56669
It would still be weak against pure silver, right?

>Just kidding. It's not like René will have to go through something like that every time he improves his magic, yeah?

Correct, the encounter with the Bogeyman happened to him after he had gotten stronger as a mage, not before. But in the same vein, this is Rene's first morning as an average mage.

>>56670
Yes, no matter how strong magic gets, pure silver still interferes with it. Think the seastone weapons from one piece. A Pure Silver weapon does help deal with magic, but a strong mage can handle a countermage if the only trick they have is Pure Silver.

>Being able to make summons with no weakness will make us RIDICULOUSLY powerful.

And yes, this is the general reward for having become absurdly powerful.

So, how close did we really get on the whole bogeyman defeating thing? Or would that be telling? I'm just curious, mainly.

>>56674
You did about as well as a guy playing rock paper scissors without having all the moves could hope to do.

Ficus 2012/07/04(Wed)16:18 No. 56740 ID: 09e5bf
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Going into hip withdrawals, so I decided to draw some of René's family.

>>56740
You can say you're drawing Rene 63, man. It's cool, no one's going to judge you.

>>56743
Nope, dude has a sister and mom, if I was doing rule 63 René, I'd put her in one of René's outfits.

>>56740
Now draw a picture of his "mother" in the same outfit. [spoilers]Morbid curiosity demands this of me. Please forgive me.[/spoiers]

>>56740
She really needs that dress, huh?

>>56744
> rule 63 René
Why, yes. Pretty please?

>>56740

having a bit of leg confusion there, ficus.

>>56746
I think this is more of a working outfit, not something she would wear in a classier setting. She probably already owns something that's not underwear. I can't imagine that's what she wears to church.

>>56746
Don't think Ficus has done any rule 63 René, but Gnoll did: >>/questdis/55546.

You know, you listed bandages when you listed the inventory a few posts ago. I checked that to see what medical stuff was available before describing appropriate first aid.

>>56756
oh. oops.

Ficus 2012/07/05(Thu)00:08 No. 56761 ID: 09e5bf
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Decided to draw René's sister as well

man, I like his family.

>>56761
Good lord, I hope there's enough room in the bust of the dress we got her. Maybe we should have picked her up a back brace while we were in town.

>>>/quest/429789
All chaps are assless, and near as I can tell the ones that are specifically referred to as "assless" aren't intended to be functional, they're just showy pants for whores and more flamboyant gays.

Also, she hasn't actually used them for their intended purpose on screen, she's just wearing them around the ranch. No reason she couldn't be in just her pants, based on what we've actually seen. Although based on where we found her it's implied she's been working, so it's not like they don't make sense in context.

>>56857
She actually does ride horses while she works, Rene just didn't catch her doing so. I feel the irony is that I've drawn two people wearing chaps, and now that I've finally drawn someone riding a horse, he's chapless.

so the answers to the latest update makes me think y'all are gay.

>>56873
So you're a motherfucker?

Or, given that it's a dream, a motherwanker?

So far going in other people's dreams has worked out well exactly zero percent of the time.

>>56873
Not everyone's into incest, broseph.

>>56878

what

who the hell said anything about incest

>>56881
Mother/son is incestuous by definition. Voyeurism is all well and good, but this isn't exactly a cool situation for it.

>>56881
Buddy, that dream is Rene's dad about to hump Rene's mom.

We're only suggesting to bolt out of that dream because of how awkward it'd be for Rene, come on dude.
His Mom's a hottie, but this is a major nottie.

>>56890
And the spectator is Rene. Thus it would be incestuous voyeurism.

>>56890
And the spectator is Rene. Thus it would be incestuous voyeurism.

unless he wan't aroused by it

which I doubt he'd be

unless he was

but that wouldn't be my fault

anyway tormenting the protag is always a plus and if it gets me free boobies I'm definitely for it

I'ma fight for it 'till the very end

>>56903
Damn it all, we're not having ANOTHER quest where the main plot gets derailed into incestuous romances. It was funny the first few times, but it's getting real old now!

Hey, his father is quite handsome!

> incestuous voyeurism
Always learning something new.

Ficus 2012/07/10(Tue)21:19 No. 57049 ID: 09e5bf
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I'm going to be slowly doing basic stats on the civilized races, and since Gnolls haven't shown up yet, I'll start with them.

The main thing of note will be Racial Perks, which are essentially physical perks that the whole race gets, which sets them ahead of other races in one way or another.

Gnolls in Magic West have the Racial Perk of Keen Senses. As such, they all have a good sense of smell and hearing.

They're generally around 6-7 feet tall, and weigh 220-300 lbs.

>>57003

you people need to watch some John Waters films.

>>57052
Nobody ever needs to do that.

>>57055

true. but only if by nobody, you mean everybody.

Ficus 2012/07/12(Thu)21:28 No. 57106 ID: 7acc27
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Giants in the world of Magic West have the Racial Perk of Proportional Strength.

This makes them stronger and more resilient to damage than their smaller counterparts. A Giant has the proportional strength and resilience of smaller races, though not the Racial Perks of other races. Giants do not possess a proportional version of the Human Racial Perk.

Giants range in size from 20 to 30 feet tall on average.

>>57106
I don't want to be That Guy, but if their strength is only proportional to humans, etc, then the Square-Cube Law would mean their legs would shatter and their hearts would burst under the weight.

>>57108
Presumably this is "proportional strength" in the Spider-Man sense.

>>57108
Doesn't work like that. They are, for all intents and purposes, a being in a world that has been shrunk around them. They interact with items as if the items were that small for a normal being.

>I don't want to be That Guy

that's obviusly her husband... i mean look at him... yep, definitelly that giantess's husband

>>57110
To put it to numbers, if a giant is 5 times taller than a person, they're 125 times stronger.

A giant, in a desert? That's horrifying. That girl looks like she could use a water-tower as a easy carry mug!

>>57106
>a skirt that ends above head height
>apparently on underwear since if there was the strap should be visible, and it's not
huehuehuehuehuehuehuehuehuehuehuehue

>>57106
I just noticed the mask this dude is wearing is similar to the ones from the dream - is that a common cultural thing?

>>57120
That mask means he's from the Crow Kingdom.

>>57120
Yes. People from the Crow Kingdom all wear masks.

are their bodily smells proportionally strong, too?

Ficus 2012/07/14(Sat)01:31 No. 57140 ID: 7acc27
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Nagas in the world of Magic West have the Racial Perk of Stability

As long as their tail is mostly supported, they are just as stable as a person standing on flat, even ground.

They can handle sand dunes, steep slopes and tree branches just as well as they could firm ground, as long as it doesn't give out under them.

>>57140
Is that a cloaca I see? Also, how big are they in comparison to other races?

>>57142
Their torso is about the size of the average race's torso. Their tails vary fairly dramatically.

Since she has a rattle, I guess that means they shed their skin.

How much of it do they shed? Just the tail, or is it scales all over?

>>57158
I don't see why it wouldn't be all scales.

Anonymous 2012/07/22(Sun)12:02 No. 57540 ID: 49a560
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The latest update inspired me to make this terrible thing.

>>57540
is that an anime style gun?

>>57601

there's no gun in that picture, so I guess he's just happy to see you?

do you not know if i see that fucking cat or am i being trolled super hard or am i being a big baby about this

though i gotta admit visualizing the steel beams as a gigantic zapper-style gun is pretty amusing

>Give her clothes
>no paper doll
Come on, man.

>>57986

shame's on us for not objecting earlier, really.

More clothes make this woman more attractive
we should tell her to put on ALL the clothes.

>>438565
http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/250x250/23758059.jpg

How long do dreamcrafted objects last?

>they don't use discarded clothes as a pillow
Really? I can't be the only one who does this.

Although on a related note, how tough would it be for Rene to make a nice featherbed for them?

>>58133
>Clothes as a pillow.

You're right, this would have been a reasonable thing. I just didn't think of it.

>Feather bed

Totally doable.

That was kindof why I asked how long dreamcrafted objects lasted. I was trying to figure out if dreamcrafting a bed would have it disappear the instant Rene fell asleep, or if it would last until dawn, dumping them on the floor with the rising sun, or if it would last as long as he needed it.

>>58138
They last pretty much until destroyed.

>>58139
Oh, so he recreates his clothes every day just to clean them?

>>58140
No. None of René's clothes are gossamer.

>>58141
What? But... yes they are.

From the first thread
>>/quest/419618
"He starts the day with 10 gossamer, but spends 4 of it recreating his clothes."

>>58151
God dammit.
http://tgchan.org/kusaba/questarch/res/410618.html#419618
There.

>>58152
And then he later went an replaced those clothes with real ones. On top of that, his default outfit is, and has always been legit, non-gossamer clothes.

Also, he remade those clothes because they were destroyed. Not to make clean ones.

>>58154
Oh. Why were they destroyed? Quick disrobing for bedroom action?

We'll face it again? Why? I honestly thought that René wasn't hungry for power, actively seeking out conflict. We're doing this to protect someone? From what? What do we know about bogeymen? Why they attack others in their dreams? Anyway, what we'll do after this? We'll continue to hunt them indefinitely? Or we'll stop when we get the blood of one? Besides, shouldn't this be a really rare encounter? That's how we'll deal with that man as well? Without hearing his side of the story, without him doing anything against us? Really. I'm probably alone in this, but I don't trust in Chrysanfōs, nor have any sympathy for her. What she did wasn't only a barbaric act motivated by a stupid reason. She thinks she's right, that it's within her right to destroy and kill. She's a monster, no doubt about this.

>>58297
Honestly I just want to find one because we're looking for a teacher, and who's better at dreamcrafting than them? Might be impossible or nearly so, but hey, who says the easiest solution is the best one?

>>58297
She isn't a monster. She just isn't human. She doesn't think like a human, so she doesn't act like a human. She appears to be thousands of years old, she's bound to view things like life and death differently. There's also the matter of her face being stolen, which lessens her ability to control her emotions. Together with the fact that the way towns and cities interfere with the flow of mana through the lands causes elementals to become extremely upset/angry, I'm willing to overlook what happened as an unfortunate set of circumstances.

As for the bogeyman, I think the consensus is to mess with it because it's there. They mess with humans all the time, it's only fair.

I also think it is funny that you seem ready to hold a forgiving attitude towards bogeymen for the things they do, depending on their reasons, but Crys's actions are unforgivable despite the extenuating circumstances surrounding them.

>>58323
Being human has nothing to do with it, humans can also be monsters. Without any reason, as food or survival, she consciously ignored the feelings and welfare of other life forms. Worse, she thinks that she's right in doing so. On her emotional state, she showed no remorse. For a millennia-old intelligent creature, she's extremely stupid and ignorant.

> They mess with humans all the time, it's only fair.
An eye for an eye? That's the most archaic and stupid concept of justice. I'm not being forgiving with bogeymen, I'm just unable to pass any kind of judgment. Unlike Chrysanfōs, we don't know their motive.

>>58330
You're missing the point. Chrysanfos isn't human, so her moral system is entirely different. Her perception of right and wrong is different than yours. THAT is the point. You are assuming that your moral system should take precedence over hers. Let's say that you did not believe in the death penalty. Would you consider a government "extremely stupid and ignorant" for having a different moral code than you did and executing a serial killer?

Also, it's irrelevant, but 'an eye for an eye' is a cry for moderation. Before that, if someone ripped out one of your eyes, it was considered normal to kill him. His clan would then start a decades-long clan war with yours, killing hundreds of people.

This isn't a moral question, but whatever. Regardless of her fabulous hair, she's a bipolar bitch with semi phenomenal nearly cosmic powers. Worse, she isn't funny. That's all.

>You're missing the point. Chrysanfos isn't human, so her moral system is entirely different. Her perception of right and wrong is different than yours. THAT is the point. You are assuming that your moral system should take precedence over hers.
Cthulhu is a pretty cool guy. Sure, he wants to drive humanity insane then eat them, but he doesn't see anything wrong with that so who cares? :V
(Not so much an opinion on Chrysanfos as an opinion on your argument.)

>>58332

>Let's say that you did not believe in the death penalty. Would you consider a government "extremely stupid and ignorant" for having a different moral code than you did and executing a serial killer?

Well, yes. That's kind of the entire fucking point of a moral code.

>>58343
That is actually dependant on the individual code. Many people view their perception of right and wrong as absolute and believe that it should apply to everyone. Anyone who acts against it is evil or "extremely stupid and ignorant". Others consider a moral code something that applies to themselves only and don't attempt to hold other people to their own standard. Which can be a good or bad thing for the people around them, depending on their personal beliefs.

The situation with Crys isn't so clear cut as "She killed people, she's evil". She had her face taken from her. She's trying to get it back because it is hers and without it she has difficulty controlling herself. Her search led her to the town. Towns cause elementals to flip their shit because of the mana disruption. She suffers from the aformentioned difficulties controlling herself due to lack of face. She flipped her shit. Some people died.

Yes, she is responsible for those deaths and she knew that that outcome was very likely when she went into the town, but her intention and purpose in being in that town was not murder. Even when she was killing people, they weren't her target, they just got caught in the line of fire. That doesn't make it "okay" but it should be taken into consideration when evaluating her character.

It could even be argued that her actions were for the greater good. Without her face, she is a danger to not just the people around her, but potentially the world itself. Elementals shepard the lands. An unstable elemental could cause widespread devestation before stopped. The destruction of a single town seems a reasonable risk to take facing that possibility.

Or maybe she's just a selfish, unrepentant bitch.

We don't know enough of how things work to reasonably pass judgement on her at this point.

Elementals are tasked with the maintenance of the planet, and towns seriously disrupt everything. When an elemental chooses to avoid a town because it would send them into a fury they are actually shirking their duties. The fact that they try to avoid towns shows that they do value human life.

Her mask is part of her self-control, which makes its loss a rather serious problem on a much larger scale. Widespread devastating effects are a bit more serious than the loss of one town.

We need more information before we can reasonably hold this against her.

Beyond that, this is also a good chance to arrange for negotiations. If there are building methods that don't have negative effects on elementals then we can prevent future conflicts. For that we need her to like Rene and value his ideas, which means we can't treat her like a monster.

>>58384
> Elementals are tasked with the maintenance of the planet, and towns seriously disrupt everything.
They are? Anyway, why this occurs and how many are aware of the situation?

> Her mask is part of her self-control, which makes its loss a rather serious problem on a much larger scale.
Where was this said?

> Widespread devastating effects are a bit more serious than the loss of one town.
Now we're quantifying the value of life?

> For that we need her to like Rene and value his ideas, which means we can't treat her like a monster.
Who ever said to treat her that way?

> Her mask is part of her self-control, which makes its loss a rather serious problem on a much larger scale.
>Where was this said?


>"Like I said before, a salamander's heart is like a furnace of magic. If it gets worked up, it gets hotter, and the default is burn away everything except fire. It burns us so that we don't harm the world. Out face is part of that. Keeping things we don't want exposed closed up. Not letting our emotions lash out and hurt things we don't want hurt."

That can be read two ways. One that it only prevents the power from going out of control when emotions run high, or that it keeps the emotions themselves in better check. I and the person you're replying to seem to be reading it the second way. It does refer to the emotions themselves rather then the power they cause to manifest, so it keeping the emotions in check seems more likely to me.

>>58411
>They are? Anyway, why this occurs and how many are aware of the situation?
Yea, they are.
We don't know why towns disrupt things, nor do we know if any other humans are even aware of what the problem really is.

>Now we're quantifying the value of life?
You don't need to quantify it in order to say "More people dying is worse"

>Who ever said to treat her that way?
People are condemning her here, and that bodes ill for her treatment in the quest. If suggesters consider her a monster then they're going to make suggestions based around that belief.

>>58436
> We don't know why towns disrupt things, nor do we know if any other humans are even aware of what the problem really is.
Meaning?

> Widespread devastating effects are a bit more serious than the loss of one town.
Okay, let's try again. What "widespread devastating effects"? You're making assumptions.

> If suggesters consider her a monster then they're going to make suggestions based around that belief.
Currently we're not acting as mediator, nor chasing that man. Preventing her from exploding is our real concern. That's why I said this isn't a moral issue. Actively antagonizing her will not repair the damage caused, nor will help us.

For people suggesting that René says that he's right side up, I just want to verify, are you aware that he feels upside down, or was I too subtle about it?

>>58488

Fully aware, just stubborn as all Hell.

>>58488

if I had a say in it, I'd always be upside down.

>>58488
Aware? Yes. I just feel like having him play stubborn and stuck in the 'real world' way of thinking.

I second being upside-down all the damn time

We should have him walk on his hands when he wakes up.

Ficus 2012/08/12(Sun)00:11 No. 58508 ID: f793db
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Humans in the world of Magic West have the Racial Perk of Endurance

Whatever they do, they can do it for longer than other races.

Picture is not representative of the typical human.

makes me think of ARMSTRONG from full metal alchemist.

>>58508
Can we just be this guy? I like his moxie.

>>58508
Is... is he a muscle wizard?

>>58511
No. I don't use magic users for racial profiles.

>>58512
...So there ARE Muscle Wizards in Magic West?

>>58513
Yes.

>Water/Spirit - Blood/Buffs
>Allows the mage to strengthen himself and others

>>58514
That's not what muscle wizards are.

Muscle wizards don't use mana, but instead possess an arsenal of deadly spells that they exercise through sheer physical presence alone. A few of the more well known spells from the Muscle Magic spellbook are sleep, disarm, and stoneskin.

>>58518
Then no, though mages in magic west don't use mana, and a lot of them have their magical strength basically defined by their physical abilities.

The only reason Dreamcrafters have the limitation they do, is they can't bring limitless amounts of gossamer with them when they wake up, and without that, they have nothing to manipulate.

Apart from that, though, even a low level mage like Rene could breathe fire until his lungs give out.

http://tgchan.org/kusaba/questarch/src/130654916571.jpg cast fist

fear, charm person, earthquake, bubblebeam!

Ñ 2012/08/12(Sun)12:08 No. 58543 ID: f647c0
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>>58518
Grant Morrison explains it perfectly.

This was going to be the catfolk profile, then I got distracted by bird Ficus 2012/08/17(Fri)02:49 No. 58818 ID: f793db
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Some basic details about the Crow Kingdom

Crow Kingdom citizens all wear masks at all times in public. This is done as a sign of equality. The idea being that masks add a level of anonymity, that people won't be judged by their appearance. The make of the masks vary from person to person.

Visitors aren't technically required to wear a mask, but it is considered polite to do so.

Pictured here is a Crow Kingdom bird rider. Riding birds are not exclusive to the Crow Kingdom, but a lot of legendary Crow Kingdom warriors are said to use them, as well as the King's personal warriors.

Other common riding animals are horses, wolves and lizards. There are shark riders too, but Magic West doesn't take place near the ocean, so I wouldn't expect to see one show up.

>>58818
what about a water mage? they could bring their shark with them.

>>58819
yes, they could, but at that point, they're doing everything themselves, as the shark swims around in sea water the mage brought inland, and maintains though their own power, on top of having to feed the shark themselves and whatnot. It would be like if you brought a shark in a fish tank. It can't really go anywhere without you moving the tank for it.

A water mage who lives by the ocean and rides sharks would probably go on ocean based adventures, like being a pirate, visiting islands or distant coasts, and travel the oceans rather than going inland to the Magic West.

yeah but it would be awesome.

Quite a nice and consistent art style that you use. How long does it take for you to illustrate an update?

>>58861
Once I've got a pose in mind, probably thirty minute to an hour per picture.

Ficus 2012/08/18(Sat)22:54 No. 58947 ID: f793db
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Lizardfolk in the world of Magic West have the Racial Perk of Fast.

Not really a complicated perk, they're just faster than other races.

Draw a blue lizardfolk, if you would.

>>58947
In addition, they appear to have the racial perk of "Snazzy". :D

>>58956
Dude is totally demonstrating all of the class in that getup.

that lizard is dancing. or maybe... no it's dancing. maybe prancing to meet it's destination.

>>58959
oppa gangnam style

Magic West is going to be on an short hiatus. I'm currently tied up doing a big fanart project that I'd like to finish before moving back to Magic West.

Anonymous 2012/08/29(Wed)06:28 No. 59727 ID: 60bcb4
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>>58947
>>58961
Snazzy motherfucker

Quick test to compare normal bold text and Chrys's bold text

>>63097
Don't forget that normal bold text is differently colored in different stylesheets, and can also differ on different displays. For me, on my primary display, it looks fine in [Burichan] and [Nice] but the difference is a hard to see in [Pony] and nearly impossible in [Futaba]. On my true color display, the difference in [Pony] is a bit easier to notice.

>>63103
Well, that's the main issue. I might have to just change Chrys's dialogue to something more extreme, like This

>>63104
That's definitely visible.

Ficus 2013/01/06(Sun)06:16 No. 65855 ID: c59939
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I'm considering a small stylistic shift in Magic West. Not right now, but in the foreseeable future.

Mostly I would be raising the quality of faces so they're more unified, no more 'some people have full eyes, some just have pupils'!

Coming soon™ to a /quest/ board near you!

IMPOSTER !

>>65855
makes me think of handsome jack but in his 20s

>>65877
Oh god. I thought I recognized those eyes and that smile.

>>65855

Go for it!

Ficus 2013/01/06(Sun)20:48 No. 65886 ID: c59939
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Here is the Chapter 1 end title card, without the text

>>65855
I gotta admit I like him better with the slash eye.

>>65888
>>65855
This one does kinda feel like he's staring into my soul. Probably just that I'm used to the old eyes though.

>>65877
>>65877

you have ruined Rene for me forever.

Ficus 2013/01/07(Mon)19:51 No. 65907 ID: c59939
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And the Chapter 2 title card, sans text

dem robust sinews

>>65855
That face looks way too cartoony and overwrought for my tastes. I think current faces are entirely fine. There's no real need for them to be unified.

>>65907
Police round here be perverts, dawg.

I also prefer the current style, albeit from a comparison sample size of 1.
>>65907
Muscle wizard mage!

>>65907
If I had to take a random guess, I'd say she looks like a Water/earth caster, or Ice mage.

Warsor 2013/01/08(Tue)05:42 No. 65917 ID: 84b8a7
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Ficus pointed this out to me so I share.

a description and... no listing of what we are wanted for. "wanted for being able to shoot fire."

>>65917
>>65918
I was aware of the status of our wanted poster back then, what I want to know is if it's been updated yet.

>>65918
And the ability to make dreams come true!

>>65917
I'm actually trying to visualize a pugilist highwayman. I'm imagining he just steps into the middle of the road half naked and punches out your horse, grabs your saddle while you're still struggling to comprehend what just happened, and walks off.

>>65921
Why do you need to visualize him when we met the real thing?

going by description alone is sometimes more amusing than in the flesh

>>65917
Obviously the perfect disguise is to just shift his pistol to the other side.

E>>65919
>>65924
>>65922
Yes there are some very interesting information there...but you all saw the other wanted posters too I hope? Specificly a certain female Satyr Blood mage?

>>65943
This is a water mage, though.

>>65947
Blood is Water/Spirit.
See >>54522

Still super curious about mages with primary Spirit magic. Also Spirit elementals and are they a thingggg

>>66120
It was discussed earlier with the fire elemental.

>>/quest/486635
So, whispering inmate.. think he recognizes the tells of a suppressed mage's aura and wants us to get him out too?

>>66392
Yes. Sadly as much as I wish we could completely suppress our aura anyone that sees us for more then a second will know.

I feel subterfuge has worked well up to the point but its reaching the limits of luck we can hope for. We have no choice but to accept helping this prisoner for the moment to keep him from blurting out our presence(not that all prisoners are like that but he seems an opportunist to me). Having him call the guard over while we sneak around through the cell block doors seems a good way to utilize him and also test if he is trustworthy. Then its just a matter of deciding to ambush the guard or going to find our brawling blood mage.

Ficus 2013/02/04(Mon)12:45 No. 67070 ID: c59939
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Magic West Prologue Favicon

Ficus 2013/02/04(Mon)12:46 No. 67071 ID: c59939
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Magic west Chapter 1 Favicon (maybe chapter 2+ as well)