>>223268
suppose i should explain this. if it moves there then they CANNOT touch it without losing everything. only the queen or pawn can touch it and if ether stakes it we use the rook. then if they take the rook we use our queen, which THEN places their king into check.

+1 Impulse pawn takes bishop. It's a hurtful move but nothing else is better.

>>223269
That's well and good but we have to do it *after* making sure the bishop doesn't just run away.

>>223269
Then what? Our pawn can't really support our other pieces since it's surrounded, and if it captures the pawn afterwards then the queen takes our rook... and actually that would be checkmate. You're not thinking ahead more than 1 or 2 moves are you?

>>223351
if it captures the pawn afterwards OUR queen can capture their queen, pytting THEM into check.

2600 !!MxA2V1BJRk 2010/08/30(Mon)18:49 No. 5004 ID: 67c611
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White pawn takes bishop at F3.

>>223795
god dammit, you guys fell for the trap. that bishop couldn't do jack shit to us other then take one more pawn. UGH!!!

2600 !!MxA2V1BJRk 2010/08/30(Mon)18:54 No. 5006 ID: 67c611
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Black pawn takes pawn at E5.

>>223796
After the bishop took the pawn, we would be more open than we are now. Exactly how did we make the situation worse?
>>223352
Black would have never done this. Especially after you pointed it out. If you want to talk real strategy- like more than 1 or 2 moves ahead- do it in PMs, please. Our opponent can read all these posts.

Not like it really matters anyway though. I don't think this was ever intended to be a serious game of chess.

>>223806
we opened up the EXACT same fucking hole that the bishop would of made. exactly how are our defenses better?

>>223807
...there's another pawn right there. It's right there, you... you... DOUBLE STARBURST

The bishop would have RETREATED and we would have been down by an entire knight.

Also +1 impulse bishop to E3.

>>223880
That’s correct Black would have been up a whole knight. After Whites pawn to E6, Black would play pawn to D5 forcing the queen off her post. Sending her to D3 or F1 giving Black the tempi needed to retreat his bishop to E4. Bring indirect pressure to Whites pawn at E6.

[ spoiler ] You can type anything you don't want me to see like this. [ /spoiler ]
Or you can use the IRC channel #AGameOfChess
Or I can start a strategy thread in /questdis/ and hide it.

2600 !!MxA2V1BJRk 2010/09/01(Wed)12:56 No. 5016 ID: 67c611
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White moves bishop to E3.

>>224589
A1 to D1

>>224617
not white's turn, brosef

2600 !!MxA2V1BJRk 2010/09/02(Thu)19:45 No. 5019 ID: 67c611
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Black moves queen to E6.

C3 to D5

>>225124
No, then the knight takes our queen. Our knight then takes the knight, which is then taken by the rook. We lose a queen and a knight, and only take a knight in exchange? That's fucking awful. We can either exchange queens now-which fucks up Black's likely next move of E6-H3 or try to get away.

So that's either Queen captures Queen, or C4-A4... or possibly C4-B3?

My vote's for C4-B3.

>>225239
Agreed, C4-3B.

>>225239
WHAT? the knight is no where near range to get our queen.

Queen C4-A4

Supporting Queen trading and messing up his pawn formation. I think we can even get back that pawn we lost to the fiasco a couple turns ago.

2600 !!MxA2V1BJRk 2010/09/04(Sat)18:47 No. 5025 ID: 67c611
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White moves queen to B3.

2600 !!MxA2V1BJRk 2010/09/04(Sat)18:49 No. 5026 ID: 67c611
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Black queen takes white queen at B3.

>>226142
C2 to B3.

That moves the pawn out of the way, letting us threaten the king with a rook.

Hug tom, read note, do the obvious thing.

Seriously now. Either commit to trading queens or do something to prevent it. Instead of wrecking his pawn structure we tangled up our own and gave HIM the initiative.

What about a2 to b3? This allows the rook to interact with the later pawn advances in that area and also keeps a pawn in position to attack the center squares upon advancing.

>>226187
actually, yeah, do this.

2600 !!MxA2V1BJRk 2010/09/05(Sun)20:57 No. 5032 ID: 67c611
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White pawn at A2 takes black queen.

2600 !!MxA2V1BJRk 2010/09/05(Sun)20:59 No. 5033 ID: 67c611
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Black moves knight to D5.

C3 to B5
I have no idea if this should be taken seriously or not

>>226664
It shouldn't.

My first instinct is bishop to A7, they can't take it and it cuts off escape for their king. Knight takes Knight at D5 does us no good; Our only other viable move is Knight to E4, followed by ND6+. If anyone has something better say so but...
Bishop to A-7.

i agree with c3 B5

actually as far as viable moves go E1 to D1 was my sane alternative to C3 to B5. But I've never been one for sanity.

>>226687
The only way that does anythign useful is if Black is stupid enough to go 18...a6xb5?? at which point our obvious play is 19 Ra1-a8+, black king is in the open and is pretty much a dead-man walking.

I doubt black is that big an idiot so I dont like the move.

All right fine.
Let's just take the knight, it has some particularly annoying moves available.
-1 C3 to B5
+1 C3 to D5

>>226743
fine, switch me to this too.

2600 !!MxA2V1BJRk 2010/09/06(Mon)17:39 No. 5042 ID: 67c611
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White knight takes black knight at D5.

2600 !!MxA2V1BJRk 2010/09/06(Mon)17:39 No. 5043 ID: 67c611
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Black rook takes white knight at D5.

C2 to C4

Anonymous 2010/09/06(Mon)18:35 No. 5046 ID: c81653
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Let nothing remain.

King to G2

>>227190
+1

>>227194
I fail at chess, can someone explain this move to me? I'm leaning towards A-1 to D-1 in an attempt to recapture dominance of the center lane.

>>227206
Alternatively, or E1-D1, either of the rooks would work if you don't want to give up that side lane opened by the pawn

E3 bishop to A7.
Give black something else to think about. Then we will see about playing with our rooks.
There is no good way to chase that bishop out without a BUNCH of moves to maneuver around. We can counter the ones that take two moves or less.

pushing the C pawn to attack the rook is waaaay too easy to deal with. Rook is too mobile to actually be threatened right now, and there are more dangerous places it can get to. We do not want to encourage that sort of thing.

Only reason I see for moving the king is to try and get him out of the back rank. That is the sort of thing you do when you expect to have rooks running around in your back rank momentarily, which I do NOT expect. If there is another reason, please speak up.

Black is in a trading mood because he is slightly up in material. We should not be offering him chances to make even trades if we have other alternatives. When you are down material, the more pieces you can keep on the board the better. (10 against 9 is better odds than 2 against 1)

how about B3 to B4?

>>227230
does that do anything besides lose us a pawn and put our rook in danger from that bishop back there?

Seconding E3 to A7. Now looks like a good time to do that.

E3 to A7.

>>227190
+1 HAIL TO THE KING, BABY

>>227190
Lets do this!

Okay, okay, I guess E3-A7 then.

Runoff between King to G2 and Bishop to A7. Those who did not vote for either of these two cast a vote. Hopefully it will break the tie.

Those people would be
>>227169
Or any new voters.

I do not understand any reason for this king move, and as none has been presented...

bishop to A7

King G2.

Sticking the bishop in a corner is precarious and exposes our bulk of pawns to rook.

Huge thoughtpost coming up, spoilered so the enemy can't read it :P

If we move E3 bishop, the black bishop on F8 could go C5 and leave our bishop trapped. However, we could then move up our pawn on C-2 and challenge the enemy rook; Black would have to take the bishop and lose the rook and center dominance, or save the rook and lose the bishop, a more likely possibility. The rook being attacked in this way cannot be moved so that it protects the bishop and can avoid the pawn attack, so either way the enemy has to lose a piece, if I'm thinking this through.

Just ruminations on the idea, though I am given to know that exchanges are bad for us now, and this risky plot could lead to something like that.

>>227744
Any pawn which becomes exposed can be defended just as quickly. Besides, if black is running around taking pawns with his rooks instead of dealing with the bishop, it just makes checkmate that much easier.

>>227787
Nah, don't attack with the pawn. push the A rook up to A5. pin the bishop to the rook and attack at the same time. His options become trade bishop for rook (a good trade for us) or try and defend, at which point we can take an unprotected pawn somewhere as we disengage. There are other things which are better for black to do, but I suspect the best one is to ignore the bishop entirely. Pont is, we WANT the bishop to look like a delicious target. it is bait.

King to G2! Maybe!

>>227798
ARG! This is so frustrating. What is the purpose of moving the damn king? Is it a wait and see move? Is there mate in three if the king doesn't leave? I can't consider the relative merits if I am comparing against a move which has none.

If you don't want to move the bishop, that's fine, DOWNVOTE the bishop move. Don't vote FOR a move unless you think it is a good one.

>>227802
They're equivalent at this point. And it keeps the voting simpler.

>>227816
...okay whatever, if you want to lose go ahead.

>>227819
There are currently only two competing moves, bishop and king. Downvoting one is the same as upvoting the other. This has nothing to do with which is better. I don't understand you.

Fine, I'll phrase this as downvoting the bishop.

2600 !!MxA2V1BJRk 2010/09/07(Tue)20:43 No. 5076 ID: 67c611
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White moves king to G2.

[vote 6 to 5 favoring king]

2600 !!MxA2V1BJRk 2010/09/07(Tue)20:54 No. 5077 ID: 67c611
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Black moves king to D7.

Continue the charge!

Rook to E2.

Wow, you guys really went with the king move. Seriously, I am not impressed. Then again I suppose it doesn't matter anymore, moving on.

The really obvious thing to do at this point would be to pin the Rook to the king with one of our rooks, probably A1-D1. But this is too obvious, and I'm not sure I trust my own intellect...

Takes two turns, but if we could on this turn pin the rook onto the king with one of our own rooks and then next turn, assuming nothing goes wrong, move the bishop onto C5, Black might take it with his bishop because his rook's pinned and can't move. Then we can take the rook and fork his bishop. This is probably the best end if we go this path, but I doubt it's going to happen, it's too obvious as a trap.

But if we do it, even if the trap fails, we can still advance our own rook, taking the enemy rook, and reinforce the bishop in a daring attack which may or may not end for the better...

>>227849
What the hell are you doing. No. Hell no. That move accomplishes fucking nothing, and takes the rook off a reinforced-structure with the other rook on the final row, in exchange for limited range. If you really want to move that rook, move it to D1.

>>227852
that combo you are thinking of isn't going to work and here is why. He may just trade rooks, put himself in check, and step away to safety. See trading pieces when down material (listed above). Even if he does not, his next move would be to defend that rook with another piece, because if he doesn't, we could just take his rook for free and skip the whole forking bishops thing. And that defender breaks the plan.

>>227853
Eh, don't be too quick to judge. It IS the first step toward stacking our rooks on the same file, a decent strategy in most situations. It's a little slow for my taste, but it would have been better than that retarded king move last turn.

I smell a troll with several proxies.

Anyway. C2-C4

>>227888
Shit, you might be right.
Took the first two pages of tgchan and expanded all the threads then searched IDs. Got two unique ones for king and one unique one for bishop.
I'll start double checking any IDs I'm not familiar with. If you want to you can do some of your own detective work and let me know if you find a unique ID or report the post and give that reason. I'll ask the mods to keep a lookout as well.

>>227944
>>227888
I don’t think so. There is decent strategy in moving the king forward which I’m not going to talk about. Besides it there are max 2 or 3 that “might” be proxies. You guys where in a kind of heated debate. So another possibility is some people where scanning the forms and cast a vote to untie the poll.
>>227580

>>227944
you know, Google can do that for you: http://www.google.com/search?btnG=1&pws=0&q=site%3Aquest.lv+%22ID%3A+67c611%22

I don't see any great moves for us right now.
+0.5 for A1 to A4 I guess (aka feel free to ignore this in event of a tie).

>>227969
>..which I’m not going to talk about.
I'm going to stab you. In the face. Tonight if at all possible.

>>227976
I know Black so I cant help in this game. sorry people -.-

C4, if he moves the rook up, will lose us the pawn at B3 pretty fast or force a rook/rook trade.

A4 is a solid move but I still like E2 a bit more; it fits the incompetent suicide charge idea without being a bad move.

rolled 3 = 3

---

1 = Rook to E2
2 = Pawn to C4
3 = Rook to A4

This is going to be the move if nobody else votes in the next 9 hours. If one of you wants to retract your own vote and then vote to break the tie you can.

>>228031
Good point.
Rook to A4.

2600 !!MxA2V1BJRk 2010/09/10(Fri)06:56 No. 5091 ID: 67c611
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White moves rook to A4.

2600 !!MxA2V1BJRk 2010/09/13(Mon)11:52 No. 5092 ID: 67c611
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Black move pawn to F5.

Well, I got nothing.
Tip king, replay game from move 19?

>>230328
There HAS to be a better move than that...

I still like bishop to A7 though; gives him something to think about.

>>230328
Starting over at move 19 won’t help White that much. And besides if you guys resign the game we will start over and the sides will switch. You guys will play as Black the next time around.

>>230362
If we move the bishop then the enemy rook can move down to D2 and threaten our pawns. Not sure if we should care about that though!

Bishop to C1, and it was turn 13 where things went wrong, not 19.

>>230369
If the rook threatens our pawns, we can start TAKING black's pawns. If the rook takes our pawns, we can put his king in check and possibly checkmate in a few turns. Black will need to use more than just the rook to do much.
However, it's important to keep the A7-G1 diagonal, I think. Otherwise black's bishop can seriously threaten us.

Rook to C4.

>>230364
shit, you again? who did I stab then?

>>230362
Only thing I see it making him think about is "why did he do that?" It was a much more threatening move when the king was nearby. Oh well, at least it gets the bishop away from that incoming pawn rape.

>>230470
True, but 13 didn't cause so much rage (at least for me) and is much more recent. I understand the sentiment.

You guys realize that “Tip King” is tied in first with Bishop to A7, Bishop to C1, and Rook to C4. ^^

>>231099
It's reasonable.

>>231101
lol

awright fine, I'll go with the original bishop move officially, just to break the tie. Understand though, I will be completely unsurprised if nothing good happens as a result.

E3 bishop to A7

2600 !!MxA2V1BJRk 2010/09/18(Sat)14:14 No. 5105 ID: 67c611
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White moves bishop to A7.

>>231713
Ghost moves White King to G1

2600 !!MxA2V1BJRk 2010/09/19(Sun)10:34 No. 5107 ID: 67c611
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Black Moves bishop to G7

[Fixed the white king position.]

2C to 4C

>>231923
eh, I dunno. biggest appeal for that was encouraging the rook to get off that pawn and leave it open. The bishop is there defending it now.

how about B3 to B4?

>>231934
I see what you're doing there I think... I think E1 to E3 would be a better way to do it.