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56077 No. 56077 ID: ecb09c

Discussion of DeerlingQuest! You can also use this thread to ask either general questions of me, or IC questions of the characters.
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No. 58345 ID: e3f578

I forgot to ask a question.
Are there scholars who have are studying the ritual to increase the chances of success? Like measuring brain waves, thought patterns, different methods that may increase the likelihood of success such as committing the kill during a romantic gesture, to raise the affection and love during that moment? Seeing that even after having a successful deerling once, committing the ritual again does not guarantee another deerling can one conclude that their love in general is not taken into consideration but instead the amount of love at that precise moment is what's actually matters? Are scholars set on defining what "true love" is in terms of the ritual or has that been successfully defined yet either by the gods or scholars in the past?
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No. 58358 ID: a21b1b

Can we have the names of the moons? What phases are they in? How is time divided within a day?
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No. 58375 ID: 6808dd

>>58345
Scholars have certainly tried, but love is a difficult thing to quantify. They don't currently have the technology required to measure brain activity or chemicals like dopamine, seratonin, etc. - in fact, they don't even know that they exist. And even if they could, this is an arcane ritual. Sure, the body has measurable physical responses to the emotion of love, but the success of rituals is based mostly on the abstract, including intent and state of mind.
Also, as for the fact that a couple can fail the ritual after having one or more successful attempts - relationships change. The state of the relationship in general is definitely important (as is the love at that precise moment), but usually if a couple fails the ritual after already completing it before it's because the state of their relationship has declined since their last attempt.

The smaller moon is Süße Dame and the larger moon is Reizende Dame. They are always new moons, so they are difficult to see and provide little light.
I've also already talked about how Rekitzchen handle time, but I'll just copy/paste it:
>So, to recap: 30 hours to 1 day, 10 days to 1 week, 2 weeks to one stage, 3 stages to one season, 3 seasons to one solar cycle.
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No. 58376 ID: 997ce7

>>58375
Okay, assuming that hours remain constant, that'd give them 5,400 hours per year. So in Earth time, they have a 225-day solar cycle, meaning that 1 of their years equal .616 of our years, so if anyone ever needs a reference for the characters' ages, 5 of their years are roughly equivalent to 3 of our years.
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No. 58377 ID: 6808dd

Yep! However, their biological time moves at about the same pace as their chronological time, which means that even though their year is technically shorter than ours, they also age faster than we do. So the ratio is flipped, there - one solar cycle ages a deer the same as one human year ages a human, so a deer's age relative to solar cycles is about 1.6:1 a human's age relative to years.
okay that was really poorly explained i hope you guys get what i mean ajgfdgjdfk
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No. 58378 ID: 6808dd
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58378

also i sketched up really fast renditions of Gunter as a human, both male and female.
usually, if i think of a gender for Gunter in my head, i imagine fi as male - but of all the characters, i think Gunter is the one that flips back and forth between the genders the most easily in my mind.
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No. 58379 ID: 6808dd
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58379

and here's the same thing with lutzi.
my headcanon lutzi gender will always be male and nothing will ever convince me otherwise
even though lutzi would be a BABE as a woman
anyway, i'll do lief and fritzi eventually
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No. 58380 ID: 997ce7

>>58377
So what you're saying is that their lifespan is shorter, so they age 1.6 times faster than a normal human would, and therefore an 18 year old is equivalent to a human 30 year old?

Also, those drawings are wonderful.
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No. 58381 ID: 6808dd

>>58380
yes. thank you for being far more articulate and concise than i ever manage to be.

and i'm glad you think so, ty! :>
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No. 58383 ID: 997ce7

>>58381
So I came back to find this and I have no idea how to accept compliments like these gracefully, every reply I can think of either implies that I think far too highly of myself or far too little of you. So I'll go with a sincere thank you and hope this doesn't get awkward.

And I keep imagining female!Lutzi as Marena form Keychain.
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No. 58395 ID: a21b1b

>>58375
Oh yeah, sorry for the re-ask.

Can different Rekitzchen have the same talent? If so, is Gunter's inability to shut off fir empathy something a trained empath could avoid (or at least deal with better than Gunter did), or is it something inherent to the talent?
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No. 58396 ID: a21b1b

Does Lief's corrupting touch only apply to inanimate objects?
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No. 58397 ID: a21b1b

Also, why would a species without gender refer to the moons with the word for "Lady"?
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No. 58408 ID: 6808dd

>>58395
Yep, there are definitely repeat talents. Some are more common than others. (For example, healing powers are very common; empathy/projection like Gunter's is middling/uncommon; something as broad and deadly as Lief's corrupting touch is pretty rare.)
Someone who focused more on their empathy would definitely be able to at least somewhat block feeling the emotions of others if they needed to. Gunter has never really worked very hard on controlling firself.

>>58396
Nope. Lief can corrupt anything ti can touch. For inanimate objects that means weakening and eventually destroying it; for living things, that could mean anything from weakening/killing the being to literally corrupting their personality. It's a very broad, very powerful talent. Kind of OP, now that I think about it. Whoops.

>>58397
Because they didn't name the moons.
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No. 58418 ID: e3aff6

>Kind of OP, now that I think about it. Whoops.
If you didn't specify how much damage it can do per second of touching you could balance it through that.
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No. 58421 ID: 89499d

> Lief can corrupt anything ti can touch.
Anything, even a god.

> Whoops.
Too late.
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No. 58423 ID: d6c330

If it's OP, then make accurate control or resolution difficult. Make the actual effects somewhat random, or hard to predict. Apply some sort of subtle or insidious cost. Introduce a chance of failure, with a penalty. Make all these factors worse the larger or more significant the attempted corruption.

...and then don't let us or the characters know exactly what these limits or restrictions are till we stumble across them the hard way.

Boom. OP fixed.
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No. 58427 ID: a21b1b

>>58408
Well, this of course raises the question of who did?
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No. 58429 ID: c8c8e9

>>58418
>>58421
>>58423
Well, I mean, I did mention in the first description of Lief's talent that the larger or more complex the object/being is, the harder it is for Lief to corrupt it. So there's something.
But yeah, there'll be restrictions. I just haven't really had to think about Lief's talent yet because ti's bedridden and stuff.

>>58427
The gods basically found this planet as it was, and when they came into contact with it they gained a lot of basic, very very old knowledge of it - including the names of a lot of stuff. Susse Dame (fuck you no special characters) and Reizende Dame are just the Rekitzunge translation.
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No. 58434 ID: 89499d

>>58429
> I just haven't really had to think about Lief's talent yet because ti's bedridden and stuff.
Meaning that we can save tin? Here I thought you would... Okay, it's too early to celebrate.
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No. 58439 ID: e3f578

All ready got a theory going on in my mind with all that extra spicey recent info, in combination with that extra spicey story a bit back and a little bit of info about what Gunter said about what Lief believes.

We have it straight up confirmed that the gods created the Rekitzchen, but for some reason or another, a the deer of imperical science Lief is, thinks that Rekitzchen came from evolution despite the physical presence of gods on the planet. Why would members of the science community just come up with that from nothing? There must be some physical evidence of similar creatures to Rekitzchen in the form of fossils or some such or another shape of evidence. Then, in that spicey love story we got mysterious pointless dry humping going on, which implies vestigial erogenous zones. And THEN we learn that the gods came to this planet from space and learned a whole bunch about that planet.

Those god motherfuckers stole the outline of the Rekitzchen from an extinct race they knew existed on that planet before. They were probably just regular old evolutionary constructs like everything else, with normal sexual reproduction like all the other races on this planet. They copied a lot of stuff from the old race (because creating a blueprint from scratch is HAAAAARD and most gods are notoriously flawed with things like wrath and sloth) and then added on their own stuff for their attempt at fun creativity, making them from land and water. They took off the sexy parts, but left in the nervous system from the sexy parts and so they have vestigial erogenous zones.

So, in a weird, disconnected way, Rekitzchen are an evolved creature only with straight up divine involvement in their conception rather than the standard evolutionary system (which also can be debated to have been also created by a god to autopilot all lifeforms), and now, since they have been introduced into the physical world, they will evolve on their own naturally, depending on how genetics get passed to each generation through the arcane ritual.
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No. 58449 ID: b85f8c

>>58439
>the gods came from space
Wha? I missed that, where does it say that?
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No. 58451 ID: d6bb0a

>>58449
Where else would they come from? Space is anywhere but a planet, and any journey that uses space as an intermediate point is considered to come from there.
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No. 58452 ID: b85f8c

>>58451
I wasn't aware they were even foreign to the planet. Couldn't they have been here since the dawn of time?
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No. 58457 ID: d6bb0a

>>58452
Would a planet exist then?
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No. 58463 ID: 6808dd

>>58449
>The gods basically found this planet as it was, and when they came into contact with it they gained a lot of basic, very very old knowledge of it

I'm really impressed by the theories you guys are coming up with, but obviously I'm not going to say anything about them. ;)

>>58434
Lief's survival is dependent on Gunter's success, and that's on you guys.
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No. 58467 ID: b85f8c

>>58457
Regardless of if there was a planet here when they were born, there was an origin point for them. There is no indication it was somewhere other than this location, as far as I know.
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No. 58469 ID: e3f578

>>58467
So my "they come from space" is a theory too then.
Sa'll good.
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No. 58597 ID: 6808dd
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58597

i finally made myself a pencil texture brush in SAI and i am really excited about it so here
have some sketchies of the new deerling
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No. 58601 ID: 6808dd
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58601

uhm okay hey let's barf out a picture of the typical appearance of hardcore disciples of oberin and gonner

gonner babs are on the left, the one on the right is oberin's

disciples of gonner write their vows on their robes and have to rewrite it after washing them, in order to make sure the vows are always in their minds. they are not allowed to cut their hair, and while they are allowed to pursue romantic relationships, they are not allowed to attempt the ritual.

oberin's followers are expected to shave their heads and clip both their ears and their antlers. they, like gonner's followers, are allowed to have relationships but not to attempt the ritual. they also must remain veiled any time they are outside of their monastery.

la la la might vomit up a lot of sketchy stuff in the next few days
motherfuckin' pencil texture brush, y'all
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No. 58602 ID: a21b1b

Are there any special honorifics used to refer to priests/monks?
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No. 58605 ID: ce47da

oh oh oh I got a question

are there any chubby deerlings

because right now they're all model material
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No. 58610 ID: 6808dd

>>58602
Yep! Religious leaders are referred to as "Kind," with a short I, which literally refers to them being "Gottkinder" (children of the gods). Everyone is a child of the gods, technically, but religious leaders are just better than you.
Your normal garden-variety disciple is referred to as just that - "Disciple." I.E. Disciple Edelweiss, Disciple Marmota, etc.

>>58605
Yes! Ahhh I was just thinking earlier today about how I should have more variety in the characters. Chubby deerling are kind of rare, because deerling have naturally slim builds and kickin' metabolisms. They're just slight creatures to begin with. But there are chubby ones, as well as ones that are just shorter and stockier like Fritzi.
The problem I've run into when trying to introduce a little variety to their designs is that because of their general shape, chubby deerling just look kind of weird unless i make them short. I'm still sort of working on it.
It's a good thing to point out, though, and i am gonna try to incorporate more body types!
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No. 58611 ID: 6808dd
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58611

also idiom asked for deerling profiles!

deer faces are ALMOST humanoid - their eyes are bigger and the bridges of their noses are wider, longer, and flatter. the nose itself is also flat.

the big one here is based on gunter's face and is a good example of an "average" rekitzchen face, but the shapes can vary - along the side are profile views of Lief, Fritzi, and Lutzi.

Also, it might look here like traurig always have longer/thinner faces than frohlich, but that's not supposed to be representative of the whole gamut. it's just that all the traurig/frohlich characters introduced so far have personalities that i happen to visually characterize with either slender or more compact features.
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No. 58613 ID: d94e2c

inb4 Lief's old professor is the one who died.
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No. 58623 ID: 8a3061

given that half all rituals fail, does that mean there is a preponderance of Frohlich over Traurig?

Are there such things as same gamut relationships?
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No. 58627 ID: b85f8c

>>58623
>same gamut relationships
Addressed here:
>>58244
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No. 58628 ID: a21b1b

What are the names of the days of the week? Which one is today?
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No. 58636 ID: 6808dd

>>58623
There are, but it's actually not overwhelming, because a majority of deerlets born are Traurig.

Also, as the poster below you said, same-gamut relationships have been addressed several times. They happen, but they're rare, and viewed with puzzlement by most straight deerling.

>>58628
Huftag, Wintag, Reistag, Deitag, Upstag, Hoentag, Monnestag, Foehntag, Krammetag, and Oestlertag. The names don't really correspond to anything or have any special meaning. -shrug-
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No. 58638 ID: 6808dd
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58638

also i am officially the hugest dweeb to ever exist
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No. 58639 ID: fa9f7e

>>58638
That is strangely awesome.
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No. 58640 ID: fa9f7e

Oh, and I think you lost the title of hugest dweeb, someone just made a Thundercats quest.
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No. 58651 ID: 9a34be

>>58638
>Deerlings: The Anime
FUND IT
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No. 58654 ID: 6389ae

>>58638
>cheeky mouth
It really IS like one of my japanese animes!

Hmm, I said I had two questions, but I see one was already answered! I guess a lot of people wonder how 'gay' works in such a uniquely gendered society.

My other one is about one of my favorite concepts from older cultures [which happens to have a TVTropes page]: Do the deerlings have any sort of concept of SACRED HOSPITALITY? It came to mind since the main character is on a journey and all.
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No. 58658 ID: c7db3d

Frac, you inglorious basterd.
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No. 58682 ID: 6808dd

>>58654
no, not really! In rural areas most deerling are open to the idea of inviting a stranger into their homes, but it's not really an overwhelming cultural thing.

>>58658
doing what i do best
-salute-
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No. 58699 ID: dd5ea7

The last update... those puns... this whole quest... this whole fucking quest...

I... no words.. just.. sad and funny... laughter and tears...

Damn you. Damn you for BEING SO AWESOME.
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No. 58711 ID: 6a13b9

>>58601
So is each a mix of black and white?
Or does one have a dominant black or white?
On first click I thought the reverse disciple belonged to each.


That Oberin Kind does look a little ominous.
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No. 58750 ID: 6808dd

>>58699
ahhhhhh ty ty i'm really glad you like it!!

>>58711
If you're talking about the colors of the outfits, Oberin's disciples wear white with grey veils, Gonner's wear dark grey (because they have to be able to write on their clothing with black ink).
If you're using black and white to refer to Traurig and Frohlich, there is no integration. Oberin is always worshipped by Frohlich, Gonner is always worshipped by Traurig. There's not really any point in praying to the god that isn't in charge of your gamut, because they won't pay any attention to you.
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No. 58753 ID: e3f578

>>58750
There must have been some dumb stubborn deer that have tried to worship the in charge of the opposite gamut though. Just some dumb deer either doing it pointlessly or their frame of logic makes them think it will score them better points with the opposite gamut. Or maybe just to be a little rebellious or stand out due to dumb immaturity.
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No. 58755 ID: 6a13b9

>>58750
I meant the outfit colors, thanks for clearing that up. I was thinking about doing some fan art. I actually was a little tempted to give the Gonner disciple black cloth with white writing.
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No. 58867 ID: 6808dd
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58867

lalala concept art
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No. 58871 ID: 6b0693

>>58867
nice!
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No. 58872 ID: aa5df9

>>58867
I like how the body seems to go on for miles.

Also, waterfalls from treetops? Could it be the glade is located 'underground'?
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No. 59152 ID: e3f578

The only thing I can think of that deer can do that can be considered disgusting while requiring flexibility in any form is 69 rimjobs.
I know its a vulgar question but well, I can't really help but ask it, is rim jobbing a thing in deer culture at all? It's the only thing I think they can actually do that we do that we consider sexual that ISN'T kissing.

That is unless they have no rims to job, which makes me worry about what they do with food after they're done eating it.
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No. 59155 ID: fa9f7e

>>59152
They do have different erogenous zones. Maybe rubbing their bellies like dogs, but with their own antlers or some such weird shit?

crotch mandiblesssssssssssssss
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No. 59157 ID: e3f578

That's not really disgusting though
Then again maybe ti is only calling it that because it would invade ti's personal space.
But the things ti knows about other people should not only desensitize ti to hate, but to most disgusting things as well including the invasion of ti's personal space since it's all in the thought. So my mind flocks to rimjobbing.

I can only think of rimjobs since the canoncity of croch madibles is really debatable and if it is true, that full nude of Gunther would detail that they are retractable to the point that we could be fooled into thinking it's just a harmless, bare smooth crotch.
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No. 59158 ID: 8dbc01

guys
guys
there are no crotch mandibles

(deer do have sphincters and urethras, by the way.)
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No. 59160 ID: e3f578

>>59158
I figured that, but I forgot to spoiler the second paragraph to get in on the joke.
Just making another joke that the mandibles are like those desert spiders, hiding and waiting for prey to appear before pouncing for food and then hiding again underneath their rocks/smooth crotches.
But now I've started a new epidemic, deer rimjobs. oh nooooooo
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No. 59213 ID: a21b1b

I'm guessing Verheim's powers only work when ti's within a certain range of the secret-keeper? Otherwise, ti might wind up knowing every secret in the entire world.
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No. 59215 ID: 4a328b

>>59213
MAYBE TI ALREADY DOES ;O;
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No. 59274 ID: a25043

>>59215
Oh Deer God, no wonder ti's so melancholy all the time. Ti's seen it all.

... ti would make a great cop, however.
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No. 59275 ID: fa9f7e

>>59274
Eh, if "my talent says so" is a good enough reason for a search warrant, I suppose so.

Which brings up a question: What's the police force like, if any?
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No. 60416 ID: 8dbc01
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60416

Hey guys!

okay, so i am now fully settled into art school and I'm having a very nice time but i am also super busy! updates aren't gonna be coming in as quickly as they used to (for ALL of my quests, but i'm posting this in the deerling discussion because i think it's my most popular quest.)

i know it didn't work very well last time i suggested it, but i think i am going to try to get on a schedule - deerlings and fudgequest twice a week, katherine quest three or four times a week. i am actually gonna try pretty hard to stick to that now because i feel like it would help me stay consistent.

i really hope to stay away from a haitus as long as the one i just had, but things will be slowing down! thanks for hanging in there, guys. OuO
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No. 60450 ID: a21b1b

OK, I can't be the only one who thinks the new Frohlich bears an uncanny resemblance to this lady, can I?

http://www.court-records.net/chara3-4.htm#chinami
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No. 60484 ID: 0c61b9

>>60416
Are you kidding. You are now in art school.

I love your quest and style of storytelling, but NOW GO AND LEARN/GRADUATE/ACCOMPLISH THE FUCK OUT OF THERE
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No. 60493 ID: 16ce15

>>60450
don't know who the is, but the new Frohlich is definitely female looking. you held out this far, Fractal, but this time you've made a deerling with a gender.
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No. 60553 ID: 16b9bd

Hey, this isn't some kind of compromise or work, we're just having fun together. As much as I love your quests, I just wish the best for you. Yes, go and accomplish the fuck out there.

>>60493
> definitely female looking
Just like Andrej Pejic.
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No. 60573 ID: 16ce15

>>60553
not exactly, she's a female who looks androgynous while the Frohlich is an androgynous who looks female. the difference lies in that humans have a concept of androgyny while deerlings don't have the concept of femininity.
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No. 61258 ID: f2c20c

I have become confused on how the fi/fir/fin and ti/tir/tin thing works. Nobody in the quest has ever used fin or tin, I noticed- what are they for? Fir and tir appear to be used for both singular possessive and second person singular- his/her and him/her. Fi and ti are obviously he/she. Perhaps fin and tin are reflexive pronouns? Like himself, herself?
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No. 61265 ID: 8dbc01

Thanks for all the well wishes! :D

>>60493
>>60553
>>60573
androgyny (by our standards) is what i've been striving for in all the deerling designs - i guess i just pushed a little too far towards the feminine side with Verheim's mate!
actually on that note i wanted to just point out that realistically, there WOULD be deerling who wear skirts/dresses, use cosmetics, or have very long hair, but because i know how strongly those things read "female" i've been staying away from them in the designs.

>>59275
It depends on where you are. Ahornblatt (Gunter's home village) has no police force or jail, because it is very strictly expected that those living in the village will be civil and non-violent, and that if a crime occurs it will be worked out between the victim and perpetrator. Deerling are generally extremely peaceful, especially among their own kind, so violent crimes are extremely rare and most crime is theft or other civil/petty crimes.
larger cities do have police forces, jails, and courts, but even there violent crimes occur at extremely low rates. even robberies are typically non-violent - thieves typically use their talents to commit their crimes as opposed to physical violence.
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No. 61287 ID: 501c8d

erm, fractal?
>"..fir mouth twitching defiantly as fi reaches up to rub angrily at her watering eyes."

btw, how are you doing in art school? loads of fun? and how often do you expect us to see you?
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No. 61298 ID: 8dbc01

>>61287
FUCK i always do that
i do end up gendering the characters in my head - i can't really help it - and sometimes i slip up, especially since the pronouns rhyme!

art school is going very well and i'm really enjoying it! i really was hoping to update a few times a week, but my work load varies quite a lot. i am going to try to get a little more regular though!
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No. 61317 ID: 501c8d

>>61298
well, you're a human trying to write about vastly different non-humans. it's ok if you fuck up from time to time.
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No. 61329 ID: 34cbef

just stopped by to say it's a cool quest, i enjoy reading it
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No. 61413 ID: a21b1b

Are draw stones just normal, non-magical lodestones? Is Mina's condition a genetic (or this world's equivalent; geologic?) disorder like albinism or the like? Did you mean to have Lutzi introduce tirself as "your Frohrer's cousin instead? Because Mina's From acted like she knew Lutzi while Verheim didn't (and if Verheim's tir cousin, Lutzi is even more disgusting).
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No. 61414 ID: a21b1b

Is Verheim Mina's sibling or parent? Eltern = Parent?
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No. 61415 ID: e3f578

>>61413
FRACTAL's said before she ain't into incest (when discussing all possible relationships for FUDGEQUEST, saying that she was for all pairings except Hamilton x Harriet).
Unless incest isn't a thing for deerlings, or FRACTAL doesn't consider cousin pairings real incest, you don't have much to worry about. And Verhiem detects secrets, ti doesn't read minds. Ti could merely find some hedonistic secret activity of Lutzi's disgusting (I hypothesized rimjobs, though it could be easily ti's promiscuity and lack of commitment if Verhiem still follows deerling standards despite ti's talent.)
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No. 61418 ID: e3f578

>>61415
>though it could be easily ti's promiscuity and lack of commitment
It's now that I realize that is not something Lutzi keeps secret and would not qualify. I'm honestly surprised Luzi has any secrets, and in fact takes ti's revealed but unmentioned secret in pride to Verhiem. What shame could ti possibly have! Unless ti doesn't kiss and tell, that might count as a secret.
But who could ti drybone or rimjob that could be disgusting?
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No. 61420 ID: a21b1b

>>61415
OK, but if they're cousins, they've probably met before and Lutzi would know about tir talent.

Who's the Traurig in the picture on the wall? Tir horns don't look like Verheim's.
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No. 61728 ID: 8dbc01

>>61413
Verheim and tir mate both know Lutzi, just not very well (Verheim did refer to Lutzi by name when ti answered the door.)
Also, yes, drawstones are just magnets. They're a novelty to deerlings and considered to be a pretty cool toy.

Also, the family tree goes like this: Lutzi and Fritzi are both Verheim's cousins. Fritzi's Frohrer has two siblings, both of whom are also Frohlich, and each of them has had at least one deerlet (one of whom is Lutzi, and one of whom is Verheim). Verheim's mate (whose name, for the record, is Gertie) is not related by blood to Fritzi or Lutzi.

I might draw up a family tree after I update tonight to help out.

Also, to clarify a bit more - the exchange between Verheim and Lutzi was just an offhand sex joke! You guys are looking a little too much into it.

>>61420
The Traurig in the picture is Mina's older sibling. This indicates that at some point, Verheim and Gerti's relationship has changed enough that the dominant personality has switched! (As a side note, it's pretty neat that after such a significant change in the relationship's dynamic, it has stayed strong and healthy enough to complete the ritual successfully.)
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No. 61730 ID: 8dbc01

Ah, I also just noticed that part of the confusion may have been Verheim's introduction dialogue, but ti was only introducing tirself for Gunter's benefit. And again, Lutzi knows the family but hadn't interacted with Verheim enough that the talent had come into play. Sorry, the dialogue there really was written in a confusing manner and it didn't portray the family relationships the way I meant it to.
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No. 61742 ID: a21b1b

I'm guessing the heartthrob on the poster is "in" a play? Does recording technology more advanced than a still camera exist?
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No. 61743 ID: e3f578

I'm honestly surprised idol worship exists in such a religious land.
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okay here's the family tree i promised! i probably could have shaded in traurigs or marked them F and T or something but whatever

>>61742
yes! kristof von eckendorf is a relatively popular stage actor. there is no video technology - deerling will travel to major cities to watch their favorite performers in plays and other performances. kristof is known for tir lead roles in romantic dramas that many might consider a little tacky, and is very popular among most frohlich mina's age.

>>61743
actually, you are not far off. the kind of behavior mina is displaying - i.e. expression intense adoration of a romantic bent for someone who realistically could never be your mate - is considered pretty dangerous, foolish behavior and is generally looked down upon and discouraged. it's a little more tolerated when a deerling is mina's age and not really at the point at which mating is a serious concern, but in a few solar cycles you can bet fir eltern are going to sit fir down and have a long, serious talk about taking those posters down and focusing on finding a mate to create an absolute bond with.
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>>61744
BOY I SURE HOPE I GOT THESE RIGHT
TOO BAD THEY WERE NOT PRE-MARKED >:D
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No. 61749 ID: d5c260

are there pedo deerlings who are like into those without markings and no breasts uh I mean antlers?
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No. 61754 ID: e3f578

>>61744
Oh boy these are cool!
And oh no, deer parents are pushy about the grandchildren like they are with humans! Oh deer, I don't suppose parents of Traurig are a little less pushy though, seeing as how trying to get grandchildren may get their child, that one of the parents died temporarily to make, killed.
Oh god, speaking of that situation, how do the families of the Traurig feel towards the Frohlich mate after an unsuccessful ritual? I mean, the parents are probably REALLY pissed if they're alive too. I mean, I'm sure a few are understanding, but the funeral must be TERRIBLE for the Frohlich. All the Traurig's friends and family there, knowing that fi is the cause of all that gathered sorrow. For empath Frohlich's like GUNTER, the funeral would be so much more awful. On top of experiencing the shock of some of Fritzi's emotions, just being within range of the funeral must have been horrible for Gunter. Imagine being the SUBJECT of all that hate and sadness, Gunter probably would turn into a dribbling insane patient.
Lief is kind of an asshole for asking for Gunter to kill ti for the ritual and getting mad at fi's refusal. The amount of crap empath's would have to deal with in this culture... do empath's get any special treatment in comparison to deer with other talents? I mean, how do parents react when their kid is an empath? Their siblings? Their friends? Not only do they have to deal with the emotions of others constantly, others might have to worry that their emotions around an empath like Gunter to be faked or hijacked.
Are there any talents in which a deer is typically shunned and/or witch-hunted in this society for having?
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No. 61778 ID: 8dbc01

>>61754
Deerling are definitely pretty pushy about offspring because it's considered sort of a social duty, and so discouragement of what is considered dangerous behavior is partially about keeping the deer/their future mate safe, and partially about fulfilling a societal obligation.
Empaths don't really get special treatment or consideration, and nor do any other talents. Because it's considered rude to ask directly about someone's talent (you're supposed to infer it via interaction or wait until they mention it themselves), deerling spend a lot of casual interaction not really knowing what talents the people they're around have, so there's no real protocol for dealing with certain talents because a lot of the time you're not even going to know what they are. There are loose, unspoken etiquette guidelines, but for the most part, people have the general mindset that you would be naive to think that someone wouldn't use their talent consistently throughout day to day life. In the case of empathy, it's generally considered sort of a low blow to use your talent to influence someone to an extreme degree if they don't know about it (but if they know about it, it's sort of a "they know it's coming, they should be aware that emotional influence is a possibility) sort of thing). But also, depending on how good you are at using your talent - they can be honed and (to a certain degree) strengthened! - you can't really do TOO much to a person's emotions without them noticing that there's an outside force at work, even if they don't know you're an empath. Gunter can't do more than general atmospheres and slight nudges before it becomes obvious to the target that he's using his talent.
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No. 61831 ID: eb6589

Gunter's decided to be a guy again, I guess.
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No. 61937 ID: 009aa8

>>61745
Clausa and Carsten - three children, 50% failure rate.

Dem grandparents know whats up.
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No. 63699 ID: e3f578

>>61778
Hmm, I just now thought of a question, and I'm not entirely sure if it has been answered, or if it's technically been answered before.

You say that Deerling's do have that societal obligation to have children. Does anything particularly bad happen to those that shun that obligation? I mean, obviously Lutzi has and it looks like ti still has good relationships with everyone but it might be because ti's attractive and probably figure ti might one day still settle down?
OR has ti's parents just settled that one their little deers isn't going to have kids of their own and deer keep to themselves that much that they aren't curious, so Lutzi's case might be a little different than the average deer that shuns their reproductive duty?
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GUYS
SOMEONE PUT TOGETHER A MAKEUP TEST FOR GUNTER?????
i .... i know them and we're buddies but it's like a total surprise she just popped this into my inbox and was like "look i'm the first deerlingquest cosplayer!!!" and i just
ahhhhhHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!

(ALSO ahem i'm done with finals and i have a month off so i hope to get back to a regular update schedule)
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No. 65119 ID: 726ea6

>>65108
Oh, neat. Looking forward to it.
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No. 65122 ID: bdb3f8

>>65108
wow, that looks really good.
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No. 65129 ID: 6808dd

>>63699
it's really just sort of a social stigma. imagine the "school slut" at your high school. she still probably had good friends and people who liked her and whom she had fun with, but there were plenty of people who disliked her even though they didn't know a think about her, and the title of "school slut" was something that followed her around in whispers. that's kind of what it's like to be a deerling who clearly has no plans to have deerlets. there are still going to be people who like you and are friends with you, and people may, for the most part, be nice to your face, but there's always going to be whispering behind your back and a general sense that the others are "better" than you somehow.

"oh, lutzi? ti's certainly good-looking, and a talented tailor, but - oh. well, you know. ti isn't the type you'd do the ritual with, if you get my drift."
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also i've been filling the void left in my soul by my inability to update by getting commissions from cool artists!

this one's by vilkest on furaffinity! she's a huge sweetheart and a super trooper and the poor thing had to redo my entire piece bc her computer crashed ;u;
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i also got a gif diptych from crownkind on tumblr! i'm asking her to tweak a few little details for accuracy's sake but i'm super happy with both of these so i'm just gonna post em right now anyway
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aaaand part 2
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No. 65971 ID: 6808dd

from now on the official disthread for all my quests is here: http://tgchan.org/kusaba/questdis/res/65967.html
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