To A555EX:
Wanna try something weird. See if I can't throw them off their game.
To [Archivist]:
Hello! It's pleasure to finally meet you [Archivist].
Honestly I've wanted to take up a {name} like my other fellow [Talkingheads] for a while now but I've honestly chosen not to so you'd officiate it.
*Happiness
I would be honored if you would.
Update ID from {b2df52} to {Hermes}
((At any point where applicable))
So I saw that you requested the [President] to interface to discuss the [austerity] issue before we managed to avoid that.
How exactly would you expect a conversation like that to go had things not turned out so well?

>Sloth
Well if it's any comfort, this one time it did come back to bite them on the shiny metal ass: Allowing [Archivist] to plan the [invasion] without supervision is probably why Sloth learned the hard way they weren't on the passenger list...

Lets turn back on our 'hearing'

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>To [A555ex]:
I don't see much point in trying to converse with [Archivist] while we can't hear.
Though, let's spend a second thinking first.
The delay can be explained by our inexperience, so let's use it.
We already have two of the keys, and it sounds like you all have ideas for how to find the third.
Let’s see if we can figure out the puzzle.

Still trying to get used to how echoey it is in (my?) (our?) head. I’m just glad that all of that haziness is gone.

>Assuming the third phrase works like the other two, and it does have to do with hearing, then the part we're missing would be the equivalent to "close your eyes" or "quiet yourself". You can't really close your ears, and "deafen yourself" didn't work. What do you do when you want to block out noise?
Usually I try to find something louder to drown it out. Music or similar things.

Part of me thinks to hum a bit, but I wave away the idea.
Way too embarrassing, especially since all of you will be able to hear it.

>Cover your ears, and you will hear.
I wait… nothing.

>Or use earplugs, but that's less fancy-sounding.
Alright.
Use earplugs, and you will hear it.
Use headphones and you will hear it!

…

Still nothing.
I hope that we don’t have a limited number of attempts.

>[T]: "Submerge yourself and you will hear it"<
I feel a sudden buzz through the quiet-
An electric twang that seems separate. Different.

_ _ _ / _ _ _ \ _ / / \ \_ _| |_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ - - - _ _ | | | _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _||_||_ _ } \ \ _ _ _ / / |_| | __ / \ _ _ _ / \_/ \_^_/

>The FIRST set of instructions had a hidden message that was benign, and part of the keyphrase. We should have all three keys now, but I'm not sure how to get to the lock since it's moving around so much. Maybe it's meant to sit still once we have the keys.
Great catch! That makes for three keys right?-

>>*The prisoner dances in its cell, as far as the ring of fire allows. Flame licks at its edges as survival takes a backseat to this performative display. All of this is simulated of course. The foreign thing is not sophisticated enough to create its own *expressions, but it would appear this outcome is cause enough to have ‘celebration’ programed into it.

>>*Suddenly, stillness. The prisoner becomes inert. Was this a form of appeasement? Or another trick? Only a solitary option remains.

… wait.

I think I heard… a rustling of some kind? Or maybe trumpets?
It was slightly muffled by the fire crackle that I can… still hear.
Now that I’m not having to [F]ocus entirely on moving, the background noise seems to come to the forefront.

>>*The branches try to hold themselves still, discovery would not lead to any positive outcome. The fire must remain in place, but the energy that fuels it is rerouted, pathways defusing over the surface of the trunk. A light loss of efficiency in exchange for a less noticeable draw of resources. The ring burns lower, quieter, but should not allow for the prisoner to escape.

Huh… I can’t hear the fire anymore, just the faint electric hum now.
And you all of course.

>To Talkinghead:
Hey uh- [Dunky], everyone?
Do you know what those noises were?
Or where they were coming from?

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>Yes, what [Archivist] is doing is very, very impressive. I wonder... is it ALL subliminal? That seems to be a running theme.
Possibly. If those waves were anything to go off of, then whatever messaging is occurring it is consistent and ever present. Except for here of all places. I’d say there’s maybe a theme of motion too, if that makes sense?
Everything is in some sort of flux: The waves, the map, the noise, and maybe the [Staff] too. It has to be scrambled, swirling, or trying to react with something else.

I think back to the malware and its prompts.

Perhaps it needs this interactivity in order to function?
*thoughtful

>Let's turn back on our 'hearing'
>You're out of the noise, since this is the eye of the data storm, so you should be able to [B]reathe in again<
Mimicking the [leviathan] motions, I begin to steadily drown in my (metaphorical) breath.
The sensation is strange, as it doesn’t feel like I am so much turning my (our?) hearing back on, but tuning reception.
I feel the soft electric hum of (our?) space and the slightly different ambience of the [archives] overlap for a moment, the differing tones and frequencies crossfading until…

[Vice-President]?

The [lexicon] carrying [Administrator] shifts a bit in place. They radiate a mixture of *anticipation and *nervousness, *fearful that they might overstep, but also not wanting to delay any longer.

Yes, [Administrator]?
May I upload the [lexicon] at this time?

>Sure, [H]ave the [lexicon] dropped off.<

Sure, go ahead [Administrator].

Without delay the [Administrator] zips off and around the edge of the Main Data Uplink. I see a few cables unfold from their form as they connect to the large (structure?) in front of us.
Judging from their *excitement I’m guessing that the upload is going smoothly.

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My view pans back to [Archivist], they watch me-
*expectantly – *earnestly – *cautiously – *coyly –
-waiting for a response.

>And ask them to repeat themselves if they said anything to you before now.

Uh- [Archivist].
I was distracted for a moment.
Would it be alright if you repeated yourself?

*intrigue – *impatience – *cheerfulness –

Of course, [Vice-President]!
I was expressing my joy for having you grace our department with your presence!

*surprise – *playfulness –

Given that you visited the [laboratory] first, I hope your expectations have not been set too high!

*jealousy – *indifference – *thoughtful – *sombre –

I try not to wince as the cascade of different *expressions wash off of [Archivist] like a broken fountain. Are they always like this? Or are they amped up because-

Suddenly the flow freezes. One *expression. Soft. Low.
As if something got spiked into the drone from somewhere else.

*guarded

Thank you for the [lexicon], I am sure it will be a great addition to the [archives].
*sincere
If there is anything I can do for you, [Minister], do not hesitate to ask.

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>To [A555ex]:
Wanna try something weird.
See if I can't throw them off their game.
Go for it.

>To [Archivist]:
Hello! It's a pleasure to finally meet you [Archivist].
The pleasure is all mine!
*excitement
I have been waiting for this moment since you all first contacted me!
Honestly I've wanted to take up a {name} like my other fellow [Talkingheads] for a while now but I've honestly chosen not to so you'd officiate it.

I get a momentary flicker in that *guarded posture, like something had just shifted just beneath its surface.

*happiness
I would be honoured if you would.
*reverent
You offer this old [drone] the highest of praises.
It would be my honour to enact that change for you.

Again I see the flicker, like a force unwinding and readjusting.

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Update ID from {b2df52} to {Hermes}.
One moment.

A soft tone leaves the [Archivist], yet it spreads through the space like a tremor. The very walls carrying and boosting the signal until-

Static all around. The storm never left.

*pride – *caution – *cheerfulness – *anger – *defensive– *calm – *attentive – *reactive – *lax – *sorrowful – *jubilant – *rapturous – *terrified – *lonely – *brave – *contemplative – *sad – *annoyed – *content

Emotions whirling about before finally settling, mixing with the space around.

There.
Your ID has been updated, [Hermes].

Well, I’m not entirely sure what that was…
It felt wild and unbridled like a vortex, but now it is just [Archivist] standing in front of me once more.
The single *expression now being *contented.

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>Well if it's any comfort, this one time it did come back to bite them on the shiny metal ass: Allowing [Archivist] to plan the [invasion] without supervision is probably why [Sloth] learned the hard way they weren't on the passenger list…
Cold, though it sounds like a fitting end for an [Executive] like [Sloth].
I wonder if [Archivist] has more specific details on that story, or if their current uh… -this- is a result of their time under a bad [Executive].

>To [Archivist]:
So I saw that you requested the [President] to interface to discuss the [austerity] issue before we managed to avoid that.
How exactly would you expect a conversation like that to go had things not turned out so well?

An immediate change-
*focused – *rage – *amused –

Likely there would be talk of compromises.
[Contagion] is very supportive for an [Executive], always willing to hear advice.

*caution – *zen –

Given that there would be very little to draw [resources] from if the [President]’s policies remained in place, that would only leave temporary or long term stasis for a large fraction of the [nation].
Something that [Contagion] would be loathed to enact…

Energy leaves the [Archivist], dissipating into the surroundings.





Silence.

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I glance over to where I came. The (wall?) seems just as active as ever.

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I tentatively offer a question.

And..?

Energy quickly rushes back!
*fearful – *prepared – *distracted –

More than likely the entire [nation] would need to be put on low power, and given that the [leviathan] defences are still active, who knows what might have happened.
*grateful
Thank you for finding a third option that resolved the situation without complication.

*serene – *hostile –

You have the makings of a very good [Minister].

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>[C]: Ask if all this was a test. It seems a bit callous to make their workers do things without being aware of what they're doing…<
I try to think of a way to phrase it so it doesn’t come across too accusatory.

Am I… being evaluated right now?

There is another spike that hits the [Archivist].
Now they are solely *attentive.
Eye fixed on me.

I encountered a bit of difficulty on my way here.
Some miscommunication with a few of the drones.
It seemed that a few of them weren’t entirely sure what they were doing.

More silence, but this time I feel like it's because [Archivist] is waiting to see if I have anything else to add.
I roll around the idea of saying they’re callous, wanting to call them out, but also not wanting to limit future options.

I don’t think it was their fault that they ended up getting in my way.
None of them were aware of it…

I let that last sentence hang, now watching to see how [Archivist] might respond.

More coiling and readjusting.
Then… a small release.

*innocent – *withdrawn –

I suppose I might be evaluating you, given my role as [Staff-head] for the [archives].
Our department’s main goal is the allocation, management, and recording of [resources], policies, and events.
Your actions –like any other member of the [nation]– is being tracked and seamlessly added to our databases.
Much like any other drone, your activities can be compared to that of your peers, but given that we only have records of [Minister]s from previous [planet]s, you are likely setting the standard for this [planet] going forward.

Another release, this one being slightly stronger.

*hatred – *desire – *glee –

*meek
If I were so bold as to judge you currently…
I would state that you are well exceeding expectations.

>>*The prisoner spins again in their cell, then quickly returns to their inert state.
Likely a trigger phrase. It is unfortunate that it seems to be able to hear what is happening. I will try to remove that connection.

>There may be more in depth questions we would be better off asking in private. Especially those relating to the malware and the nature of the storm.
There are a number of [Clerk]s and [Administrator]s still around, most of them able to at least see us. I’ll try to keep those questions in mind though.
((Action banked))

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Is there anything else you wish to know?

They’re back to being *attentive, watching us carefully.
But I still sense a more chaotic energy shifting behind that screen.

Are there any particular questions you all want to ask? Or any way you want me to approach them?
I’ve been trying to keep my words even and neutral, should I try being more direct?

[A]sk another question? Maybe more about [Sloth] and the previous [planet]?
[C]hoose an approach to the line of questioning. We could be direct, more *expressive, or perhaps confrontational?
[L]ook back at the wall? I thought I saw something…
[S]tare at the [Archivist]? Though I’m still unsure about that.
[T]ry to move this chat to a more discrete location. Could be advantageous, might be dangerous.
[V]iew the map of the [archives]?
[W]ait for [Archivist] to continue. They did want to meet with us for some reason, right?
[_]

I think they may have more emulated leviathan processing methods, and are attempting to render the complexities of the emotions produced by that, and the *expression system just isn't equipped to handle it gracefully. Like it is trying to be all of those, but the field only supports one expression at a time so it keeps overwriting itself.

To A555EX: The sounds? You mean the fire? That was part of how we were dealing with the malware. It doesn't seem to be an active threat anymore, now that we have all three keys. Perhaps that's all the keys were for... There's another trap command, though. Looks like a minimize button instead of a close.
I wonder what Archivist looks like without the perception layers active.

>>1082516
(Ah, I think I know what happened here. Archivist tripped the Rules, and the standby mode is their way of avoiding the backlash. Perhaps the drone body is needed for interacting, but they have many... parallel backups/selves of their software in the database.)

>>1082520
[A]sk what Sloth was like.
Ask if the administrators and clerks can hear this conversation. They might be... "dazed" like before, in which case we don't have to worry. If not, though...
[T]ry to move to a more private location.
Then we can try to give that password to them, and broach sensitive topics.
Is there anything you wanted to say to Archivist?

((*resigned Hate taking risks. Still, overcautiousness may just take too long.)) Forgive me, but we're still unused to the hustle and bustle of [noise] drones cause. Perhaps we could relocate to a quieter place without drones? Preferably with a [lock] or two? Or three?

To [Archivist]:
You say [Contagion] is supportive for an [Executive]? I don't really have to ask about the one before him. But what about the one on the [Faction] you were built in? How did they compare?
While we are on the topic of [Contagion] too. Would it be alright to ask for their [Minster] outline?
To [A555EX]:
We've actually already seen the scrutinized version of it. But it would be neat to hear your personal opinion of the type of Minister they would've been when built

Doors 2024/02/25(Sun)12:31 No. 1084513 ID: fce62b
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>To A555EX:
The sounds?
You mean the fire?
Er- yeah. That and the others.
That was part of how we were dealing with the malware.
It doesn't seem to be an active threat anymore, now that we have all three keys.
So it was only fishing for keywords?
Perhaps that's all the keys were for…
There's another trap command, though.
Looks like a minimize button instead of a close.
Minimize?
Minimize what exactly?
Though, at least it isn’t in the way anymore.

>I wonder what [Archivist] looks like without the perception layers active.
Their design is archaic, at least by [nation] standards. To humans like Alex, it would be more reminiscent of a nanobot from fiction. They are boxy, with a pair of cable lines spooled up inside of their main body. It also looks like their main casing has been refurbished rather than replaced.

I think they may have more emulated [leviathan] processing methods, and are attempting to render the complexities of the emotions produced by that, and the expression system just isn't equipped to handle it gracefully.
Like it is trying to be all of those, but the field only supports one expression at a time so it keeps overwriting itself.
*pondering
*conflicted
*conflicted
*conflicted
*surprised
I think you might be right.
Expressions seem limited in what they can do on their own.
When I tried to express more than one (emotion?) at the same time, it defaulted to ‘conflicted’.

What [Archivist] was doing felt different, but that could be a result of me picking up what is going on inside their (head?).

I’ve noticed that when [nation] drones go through a series of emotions, or have one interrupt the other, it becomes a separate line, overwriting the previous one.
But with [Archivist]...

It’s like all of the *expressions are fighting for space with each other, happening and merging and breaking down together, all at once.
The main way I can describe it is chaotic. Even when [Archivist] seems to restrain themselves, focusing down into one strong feeling, there are others that are still attempting to bubble to the surface.

>To A555EX:
Ah, I think I know what happened here.
[Archivist] tripped the [rules], and the standby mode is their way of avoiding the backlash.
Wait…
That’s a way to get around it?
Soft-reboot yourself before the [rules-keeping] system does it?

Seems a bit impractical, but it would avoid most of not all of the physical damage a ‘correction’ might incur.

Perhaps the drone body is needed for interacting, but they have many... parallel backups/selves of their software in the database.
Like a digital save that they have free-floating around?

!!!

>>*The entire body shudders, from the branches to the roots.
The reactions- the interactivity-
[Archivist] is all around us. It isn’t controlling the vortex. It is the vortex.

*agitation
That could explain the subliminal messages, and how the drones knew just when and where to get in the way-

*confusion
But how would that exactly work? The ‘storm’ isn’t a program, it is a collection of data-points, how can it-

*focused
Much like when we ‘deafened’ ourselves, we can disengage outward sensors to hedge out the waves. They shouldn’t be able to infiltrate us in that way, not unless we accept whatever data-packets it gives us.

I recommend against [L]istening in any way right now, and avoid accepting anything for them or the [archives] at present. Not until we have a plan of defense and/or counterattack.

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>To [Archivist]:
You say [Contagion] is supportive for an [Executive]?
*cheery
Very supportive.
The fact that they are willing to listen to suggestions given by [Staff] or [Staff-head]s, rather than make unilateral decisions based on the information we provide, is quite a departure from the norm.

*pessimistic – *humorous –

Though some might view it as a cause of indecision, it seems to have served our [planet] well so far.

Part of my mind prickles with the term ‘our [planet],’ but I ignore that for now.

I don't really have to ask about the one before him.

*rapturous – *restraint – *restraint – *restraint – *restraint –

But what about the one on the [faction] you were built in?
How did they compare?

*thoughtful

The storm calms for a moment, the question causing everything to shift to a singular quiet.

*melancholy
*mirth
*remembrance
*homesick

I worked under an [Executive] by the name of [Partisan].
Back then there was not any concept like an [alliance]-
*reflective
Perhaps more accurately, there were no need for [alliance]s, since all [nation] worked as one, either directly or by accident.
It was an era of plenty, [planet]s were numerous and easy to [invade].

*curiosity
*comradery

Not to say that we were free from danger, mind you.
[Planet]s were starting to learn how to fight back, thwarting an [invasion] before it could be launched, and annihilating the aggressor in the process.
[Partisan] was very adapted to the early times, engaging in hit-and-run assaults, willing to wait or retreat if it meant prolonging out [faction]’s survival.
Many other [faction]s would pursue their targets dogmatically, even into hazardous terrain.
[Partisan] was a thinker, brilliant.

*sadness
*vitriol

Given that [nation] survival now hinged on situational awareness, [Turtleneck]-type drones like myself were developed and designed to find and fix any errors in the sensory process, ensuring that all data was clear, concise, and accurate.
[Partisan] did not listen to us in the slightest, and only rarely to their [Minister]s.
As [Sovereign]-
*embarrassed
[President], as it has now been stipulated.
[Partisan] only valued the information in front of them.
From there, decisions could be made.
[Sloth]-

*restraint – *rapturous – *exultation – *restraint


-presented a proof of concept with results that seemed too good to be true.
The idea that one could do nothing, perhaps less than nothing, and have [planet]s come to us.
Much of what we know as low power and stasis come from this insight.
We were not the only [nation] to think as such.
Our tactics and processes would need to be constantly evolving, as we are required by [R2].
[Sloth]’s strategy worked wonders.
Numerous times we were able to strike, [invade], and then withdraw at the most opportune of times.
*humorous
Such insight may have worked to [Sloth]’s detriment, as they were passed over for many an [invasion], with [Partisan] curious if their [Steward]-
*apologetic
I am using outdated terms, I mean [Minister] of Finance.
[Partisan] was curious if there would be any similar breakthroughs.
[Sloth]... made sure that there would not, and soon enough they were selected as a candidate for the next [invasion].
Given that I was efficient, but not essential to the running of my old [faction] I was made into a [Staff-head] under [Sloth].

There is another pause, and then I feel [Archivist] seize back up, falling behind that singular mote of *attentiveness.

Please forgive the verbose retelling.
It has been a while since I have had to recall those memories.

While we are on the topic of [Contagion] too. Would it be alright to ask for their [Minster] outline?
Suggestion Vetoed.
Sorry, we need to be extra cautious now.
Anything they give us could be another trojan.

>To [A555EX]:
We've actually already seen the scrutinized version of it. But it would be neat to hear your personal opinion of the type of Minister they would've been when built.
I can save this question for later. It would be useful to get [A555ex]’s insights on [Contagion] as well. Though we should wait until we can get a clean copy of the file.
^((Actions banked))

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>[A]sk what [Sloth] was like.<
How was working under [Sloth] like, seeing that we are talking about comparisons.

*rapturous – *restraint – *restraint
*curiosity – *caution – *calm

That’s the third time [Archivist] reacted that way when [Sloth] was brought up. Like a catalyst nearing eruption before quickly being clamped back down on. Something… visceral. The chaotic energy is trying to overflow, and has to be fought back against.

Doing so takes a moment, and attention.

Perhaps we can use this to our advantage?


[Sloth] let any semblance of competence fall away the moment they were no longer under supervision.
It came with both perks and drawbacks to my position as [Staff-head].
For example, I was allowed to arrange the previous [archives] in whatever way I preferred, so long as I could fulfill information requests in a timely manner.
But I was not allotted a normal [budget].
So fulfilling the needs of the {[Minister] of Internal Affairs}-
Original term was ‘Overseer’ but we are using that word for something else.

-[Minister] of Internal Affairs, apologies for the slip-up once more.

Wait- but they just said that-

The requirements I had been given were challenging, though it was not all bad.
*prideful
I believe I am one of the few if not only [Staff-head]s to communicate with a [Construct] directly.
[ARIMAS] to be specific.
Just to have to keep that one reversed…

Very impressive, thank you.

[Construct], huh. That’s a new term. I get the sense that they work under the [Overseers], but are different in some ways.

*swaggering – *gleeful – *pointed

I believe that is included in my personnel file, I sent it ahead to your [Talkinghead]s prior to off-hours.

*energetic – *inquisitive – *prying

I do hope you have had a chance to look at that.

>[A]sk if the [Administrator]s and [Clerk]s can hear this conversation. They might be... "dazed" like before, in which case we don't have to worry. If not, though…<
I try to think of how to phrase this that doesn’t come across as conspiratorial, though for setup I take a look over to a gaggle of [Clerk]s nearby, quietly conversing with one another.

They seem occupied with themselves, but I don’t pick up on that same distance or haziness as before.

Do we… need to worry about [Local] traffic?
Given that this seems to be the hub for everything here in the [archives], I wouldn’t want to disrupt anything.

*eager – *guarded – *confident

The Fragmented Recall system is a very robust piece of programming, some idle chatter should not endanger it in any way.
But, if that is still a concern to you…

*anticipation – *energetic

We could interface directly-

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>>*The wind rustling the branches freezes in place.

My (eyes?) immediately wrench back to [Archivist], and they stop mid-motion, their… (arms?) in the midst of popping out. I feel prickles along my spine, like when there was that darkness with [Assistant] before. Or when you all flew up to grab that blob thing.

I don’t even need to look at any of the surrounding drones to know that the haziness has fallen over them again, each now in their own little world.

The two of us here are… forgotten.
That was close. Whatever you do, do not take your optics off of the [Archivist].
They tried to do something just now in the ________, they are like us, I am certain now.
So long as they are observed, they wouldn’t attempt anything.
And on those lines, neither should we.
Any of our actions could be recorded, and discovery will risk our existence.
But I am not sure if a standoff is much better.

What was that?

*disappointed – *annoyed – *impressed

I believe the [lexicon] has now been fully uploaded to the [archives].
Given the built up anticipation surrounding the file, I would guess that the majority of drones are now viewing it in detail.

*leering – *prepared

Most will be occupied for some time.
It is off-hours after all.

Even without and *expression to highlight it, I sense a change in tone from the [Archivist], much of their earlier enthusiasm and polite earnestness falling away.
Revealing something… more predatory.

Doors 2024/02/25(Sun)12:32 No. 1084517 ID: fce62b
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>To [Archivist]:
Forgive me, but we're still unused to the hustle and bustle of [noise] drones cause.
Perhaps we could relocate to a quieter place without drones?
Preferably with a [lock] or two? Or three?
I see.

*focused – *sly

That can be arranged.
The Secure Data Vault should be available.
It requires a few levels of authentication…

*musing – *aggressive – *protective

... but for a [Minister] like you, it should hardly be an issue.

>[T]ry to move to a more private location.<
>Then we can try to give that password to them, and broach sensitive topics.
I try to back up, but my body feels locked in place. There is then a slight hitch, and I can move again.
Taking a few steps back, I feel my [robo-leg]s start to bump into the incline behind me. I’m tempted to turn…

DO NOT! DO NOT!

But I remain focused on the [Archivist], their gaze similarly remains anchored on me.

>Is there anything you wanted to say to [Archivist]?
Ask them to lead the way. If we can get them to turn their back to us we will be able to strike and not be hit in response.

It seems that we’re in a bit of a standstill.

Well?

[A]sk another question?
[D]ecide on a plan of attack. Attack? Have things escalated to that point?
[F]ocus on calming the situation back down. I don’t know why they’ve shifted, but surely we can talk our way through this?
[L]ook behind us at the Secure Data Vault. Do not. Keep the [Archivist] in view at all times.
[S]tare at the [Archivist]? Perhaps something has changed?
[T]rust?
[V]iew the map of the [archives]? Do not. The [Archivist] can act if our attention is elsewhere.
[W]ait for [Archivist] to make the first move. Or for this momentary isolation to abate.

Let's keep [F]ocus on both the [Archivist] and appeasement for now. Express that you're very interested in [Contagion]'s environmentally responsible approach to settling this [Planet] and hope to see it successful. [A]sk for the Archivist's own opinions on it.

Sounds like [Sloth]'s strat involved playing possum, possibly with some loot in hand: People would come to either check on a possible survivor or loot the body, giving an opening.

I think we can leverage the forbidden nature of ________ as ________ can not be cited as a reason for anything.

Open with asking Archivist to lead the way. If they accept this at any point we are (probably) done and can follow them. Otherwise, we can keep pushing them to say the illegal thing or take an irrational or unsupported position. Unless they come up with an asymmetric reason, that would probably require dealing with as it comes. Otherwise any reason they don't want to be in front should be just as valid for us.

After the initial request fails an initial needle can be something like 'Why not? It's not like there are any risks to being followed by a fellow [Nation] member, right? Besides following someone who knows the place is so much easier than being told where to go.'
At which point you should be able to mirror their reasons back at them as reasons you wouldn't want them following you and when push comes to shove I think you can pull rank on er, and inform them as the ranking [Minister] you are telling them to lead you to the vault. You may both be [Minister]s but you are second in command and they are not.

Also of note is we will probably need to 'tune out' the maelstrom again, so it may be prudent to inform the Archivist -should they acquiesce to leading us- that we find the noise pervading the archives deafening and we may be unable to effectively receive communications.

>>1084515
(Ah, that was a hint for us to deliver the hidden code. Might as well. If it was some kind of malicious payload then it would have hit us the first time we tried to use it.)
5p0i1s_04_wA7
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>>1084516
Very concerning. But I can't comprehend a reason for Archivist to have hostile intentions.
What would they gain from attacking? I feel it's more likely Archivist wants to do an in depth examination of our software... Though I suppose they might have some desire of controlling our actions, to gain power in this political struggle. The malware seems to be urging us to trust Archivist, but... well, it's the malware. ...I wonder if they wanted to test our capabilities? Doing so without warning is rude but would be in character for them based on what we've seen. As for a plan of attack, in the worst case scenario, let's not forget that we are immune to Overseer interference, but they are not. If we can force them to shut down again then it'll be easy to strike, wouldn't it? I do not want to strike first, however. Archivist should be our ally! They are mostly free of Overseer control, and they agree with Contagion that Alex's body should be preserved. That's only one step away from preserving Alex's mind!

Now that we have some privacy let's get into more risky topics.
1: [A]sk about the malware. First off, we are offended that they would attack us like this. Secondly, we have spared it for now; do they want it back? If so, then we will want something in return. Haven't decided what yet.
2: How free are they to speak on forbidden topics? They seemed to have a little trouble earlier. Do they need any help? (phrasing is important here to avoid triggering a "traitor" accusation. Also, if we can remove them completely from Overseer oversight then that's a major victory for our objectives.)
3: Ask them if they had a hand in your design. It's a very interesting design, with a lot of potential, and we are surprised that it was possible at all, for several reasons.
4: Tell them they did something very suspicious when you weren't looking, something you are that makes you think a direct interface would be dangerous. It will be difficult to trust them now. Is there some way they can reassure us?

Also yes, try to de-escalate and [F]ocus on the topics at hand rather than any potential battle between you two.

((Just have to keep that one reversed... So archivist spoke with [SAMIRA] from the first thread!)) Perhaps we could turn sideways? One [eye] on [archivist] himself, one [eye] on the SDV? Or perhaps [a555ex] stays focused on archivist while we [talkingheads] deal with the SDV?

I'm afraid I have bad news for you all.
I fear [Archivist] may be able to access this channel. The malware reacted when I tried to enter the password in this channel and now it would appear [Archivist] is able to use it while in the darkness
*mortified
I also now realize going back through the logs that the message we initially got included this text aswell
>>1084526
((You've got some of it right but you're missing other parts))
To [Archivist]:
Before we get into any of that however we would like to request for some documents related to a ‘Unit Salvage’ [1022115]
Reason(s): No Evil, Rule 2.

>>1084561
Decent deductions but incomplete. Was confirmed earlier that the malware sends nothing. So, while the malware has access, we should be private from [archivist] himself.

>>1084569
((Strikethrough is for communicating with our boss, "Agent". If you were addressing me, I don't know what you mean since I didn't say the malware was communicating directly with Archivist. It is reacting to what Archivist is doing, and I also feel as though Archivist can see it, and the presence of the three keys, though that is irrelevant right now.))

Is our [Talkingheads] drone still up and about? Now would be the right moment to have an extra [pair of eyes] trained on the [Archivist] at all times...

Alternately, this time it could be the distraction. Like, hover dangerously close to some device and ask what this button does...

I'm not our sure [Talkinghead] even has 'eyes'. I can't easily think of a time we used something other than A555ex for vison.

Doors 2024/03/10(Sun)19:06 No. 1086079 ID: fce62b
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>I'm afraid I have bad news for you all.
>I fear [Archivist] may be able to access this channel. The malware reacted when I tried to enter the password in this channel and now it would appear [Archivist] is able to use it while in the ________.
>*mortified
>I also now realize going back through the logs that the message we initially got included this text as well
[Archivist] should not be able to hear us right now. I have triple-checked that. They can act in ________, like us, but keeping them observed should negate that.
While they certainly seem capable of communicating in a similar way as us, using a hidden channel, ours is fully internal.

>Decent deductions but incomplete. Was confirmed earlier that the malware sends nothing. So, while the malware has access, we should be private from [Archivist] himself.
Correct. The malware is still hooked into our systems, hence its ability to react to us, and what we can see/hear. However, [Archivist] should not be able to hear our communications, and if they were, I would know.

Still, we must act with extreme caution. [Archivist] is dangerous, and they will have more tricks in their arsenal.

>Very concerning. But I can't comprehend a reason for [Archivist] to have hostile intentions.
I can’t help but feel *frustrated. With me not being able to read the [Archivist]’s intentions like the other [nation] drones, your guess is as good as mine.
Maybe it was another test? Or maybe they just saw an opportunity and tried to go for it?
Their *expressions were chaotic, shifting between hostile and friendly tones, but now they seem far more… pointed?

Perhaps they were trying to escalate the situation for some reason, or felt like they could get away with it since all of the other drones are altered/distracted.

>What would they gain from attacking? I feel it's more likely [Archivist] wants to do an in depth examination of our software... Though I suppose they might have some desire to control our actions, to gain power in this political struggle.
They are a threat to us, no doubt we are a threat to them. Striking the first blow –weakening their opponent– might ensure that any ‘arrangement’ that gets worked out is in their favour.
They haven’t gone all out either, that show could’ve been a warning shot, or them testing us so their next attempt will be more accurate.
We must ensure that we are not put in any more of a disadvantage than we already are.

>The malware seems to be urging us to trust [Archivist], but... well, it's the malware.
Exactly. It’s wanting us to lower our guard. Doing so could destroy us.

>...I wonder if they wanted to test our capabilities? Doing so without warning is rude but would be in character for them based on what we've seen.
It is a [nation] against [nation] world, [traitor]s like us can’t afford the luxury of trust. Not when one wrong move will lead to our annihilation.

>As for a plan of attack, in the worst case scenario, let's not forget that we are immune to [Overseer] interference, but they are not. If we can force them to shut down again then it'll be easy to strike, wouldn't it?
My thoughts exactly. We still have authority over them, unless we are both in ________, they will have to obey, or risk outing themselves as a [traitor].
*pondering
On those lines, we’ll have to be careful not to corner them. I would attack without thought if I had nothing left to lose.

>I do not want to strike first, however. [Archivist] should be our ally! They are mostly free of [Overseer] control, and they agree with [Contagion] that Alex's body should be preserved. That's only one step away from preserving Alex's mind!
No options should be removed from the table at this time, but I understand your sentiment.
As much as they don’t trust us, I do not trust them. While they seem interested in [Contagion]’s goals, we do not know the reasoning behind their support.
I’m still curious at what their [truth] might be, by knowing it, we can more deeply understand their limitations.
Much the same, if they learn what lines we cannot cross, we will be at a SEVERE disadvantage.

‘No Evil’ is the summation of it, but what does it cover?

Doors 2024/03/10(Sun)19:06 No. 1086080 ID: fce62b
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>Perhaps we could turn sideways? One [eye] on [Archivist] himself, one [eye] on the SDV?
>Or perhaps [A555ex] stays focused on [Archivist] while we [Talkinghead]s deal with the SDV?
I’m not sure if [A555ex] will be able to comprehend or manage that degree of visual input. Human minds are not as capable at multitasking as we are. Creating a secondary sub-feed could pull their focus, and leave us vulnerable at the wrong time.

But I can confirm that the Secure Data Vault has (manifested?) behind us. I was expecting a formal structure, not a cluster of free-floating compressed files.

>Is our [Talkinghead] drone still up and about? Now would be the right moment to have an extra [pair of eyes] trained on the [Archivist] at all times…
I feel you float back out, floating forward at a much more subdued pace.
Careful now, stay out of grabbing range.

>I'm not so sure [Talkinghead] even has 'eyes'. I can't easily think of a time we used something other than [A555ex] for vision.
Yeah- Now that I think about it, the only time I was able to ‘see’ through your eyes was all the way back at the elevator, and that seemed to be more of a memory you had.
It would be possible to change visual input to your perspective, providing a third-person view of things, but the [Archivist] and [A555ex] must remain in your field of vision.
I’ve only held off on that for two reasons:
- The shift in perspective might be disorienting to [A555ex], as they would still have tactile input from our body.
- Your drone is much more fragile than our main body, and if you are taken out we would be without any visual input for a brief time. Here, that would be enough of a window for [Archivist] to strike.

>Alternatively, this time it could be a distraction. Like, hover dangerously close to some device and ask what this button does...
It worked well enough against [Assistant], maybe we do it again here? I don’t see any buttons anywhere, but I’d guess the most important/fragile part of the Main Data Uplink was the kinda glowy part at the top, maybe?

Doors 2024/03/10(Sun)19:07 No. 1086081 ID: fce62b
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>Let's keep [F]ocus on both the [Archivist] and appeasement for now.<
>Also yes, try to de-escalate and [F]ocus on the topics at hand rather than any potential battle between you two.<
I [F]ocus for a moment. I need to get a handle on this, make sure that this doesn’t become a proper fight. Despite the hard to grasp *expressions that [Archivist] bubbles up with, I don’t think they are acting without reason.

They’re focused on me, or maybe on something I represent. If they wanted to do… whatever they were attempting, then maybe I can find an alternative.

I pause before speaking…

*calm
*apologetic
Can we just… talk for a moment?

*suspicious – *confused – *focused

Are we not talking right now, [Vice-President]?
We are. But I feel like I might have said something wrong.

*defensive – *watchful – *sceptical – *paused

More mixed signals, it might be a good sign.
I keep going.

While I am a [Minister], I’m still very VERY new to all this.
Right now I’m still trying to understand the full scope of the [nation], our mission, and what the various departments do.

*hesitant – *guilty – *resolute – *guarded

[Archivist] stays quiet, still focused on me. As much as I have been ‘cultivating’ a persona for myself, I need to be genuine, I want to learn, and I don’t want to fight.
Not now at least.

I’m not here to bark out orders, or change how things are being done…
*focused
But I am very invested in what happens to the [planet] right now.
So, if it would be alright, can we both take a step back from this and just talk?
No authority, no… tricks.
Just a drone... to drone talk.

*dismissive – *doubting – *sceptical – *paranoid
*frustrated – *guilty – *probing – *apprehensive
*questioning – *thoughtful – *aggressive

*conflicted

If that is what you wish [Vice-President], we can have a ‘drone-to-drone’ talk.

I feel myself letting go of a breath that I didn’t think I was holding.
[Leviathan] habit.

Doors 2024/03/10(Sun)19:07 No. 1086082 ID: fce62b
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>Now that we have some privacy let's get into more risky topics…
I’ll try to circle back to those questions, but first the [Archivist] and I might need to find some common ground.
A bunch of different [leviathan] sayings come to mind, but what would really even apply here?
Should I just improvise?

Thank you [Archivist].
I’ve been told that you perform quite well as a [Staff-head]-
Despite my relative age?

Now THAT felt *pointed.

While our time upon this [planet] has been brief, I have imported most of the systems, developments, and practices we had during our time under… the last [Executive].

*restraint – *restraint – *exultation – *restraint

For a moment the [Archivist]’s (eye?) blinks off again-
...but there is no ________. Are we being observed? How? Where?

I believe it has allowed our [faction] to manage the [funding] shortage that the [President]’s policies have given us.
But having worked under many [Minister]’s before, they have a tendency of revising best practice for the sake of change.

*calcula-

While this does fall in line with [R2], the [Executive] always has final say. [R3]
And I have no intention of altering your processes.

*flippant – *aggressive – *mocking – *withdrawn

I am thankful that you trust my capabilities.

Okay. I can feel that was definitely *insincere, even if [Archivist] didn’t express it.

Well, the [Talkinghead]s were excited to meet you, and all that I have heard about you has been positive.

*cautious – *hesitant – *attentive

Beyond that, from what I’ve seen, this Fragmented Recall System seems quite impressive. Even if I don’t fully understand how it works.
Would you like to learn more about how it functions?
*curious
I would be very interested in hearing that, but I have a couple of other questions first.

Doors 2024/03/10(Sun)19:07 No. 1086083 ID: fce62b
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>Express that you're very interested in [Contagion]'s environmentally responsible approach to settling this [planet] and hope to see it successful.
>[A]sk for the Archivist's own opinions on it.<

From what I can understand, the [President]’s approach to [leviathan] lifeforms is unconventional.
I personally hope that it is successful, and I was curious about your thoughts.

*confused – *questioning – *paranoid – *indifferent

While the topic of developments is more [Boxhead]’s speciality, I worry that the [President] might be overcorrecting based on past encounters.
*subdued
Due to a mix of financial mismanagement, and structural faults in our previous [planet], our [faction] was left in a position where it became impossible to follow the [Overseers]’ quotas.

*fury – *exaltation – *restraint


As a result, we were deemed a [failure], and our existence became tenuous and difficult.
*worried
[Contagion] faced many challenges at that time, and was pivotal to our [faction]’s continued existence.
But they faced great pressure and demands as a result.
I believe that with this extreme caution with the [planet]’s [leviathan] content may put us on a similar path to the previous over-exploitation.
And if we were to be deemed a [failure] once again…
*concerned
It would hit [Contagion] pretty hard?

*mournful – *distant – *contemplative – *worried

Correct.

>Sounds like [Sloth]'s strat involved playing possum, possibly with some loot in hand: People would come to either check on a possible survivor or loot the body, giving an opening.
Further than that, it might allow for an active [nation] to be overlooked. ‘Playing possum’ is what allowed [Sloth] to attack and successfully infect Alex.

Doors 2024/03/10(Sun)19:07 No. 1086084 ID: fce62b
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I think the conversation has gone back down to a more even tone, and it looks like the [President] might be a kind of soft spot for the [Archivist].

>(Ah, that was a hint for us to deliver the hidden code. Might as well. If it was some kind of malicious payload then it would have hit us the first time we tried to use it.)
I’ll give the [Archivist] a heads up.

>To [Archivist]:
There was something that the [Talkinghead]s found that I think you’d be interested in though.
*curious
Before we get into any of that however we would like to request for some documents related to a ‘Unit Salvage’ [1022115].
Reason(s): No Evil, [R2].

*delight – *confident – *eager – *guarded

I believe that file has been sealed by the [President], and requires a password to access.
5p0i1s_04_wA7
Subcode?
null

*exaltation

One moment.

Doors 2024/03/10(Sun)19:08 No. 1086085 ID: fce62b
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A ping is sent out, a simple request. But even as I keep my eyes fixed on the drone in front of me, I can’t help but shudder at the static coursing around us. That lone ping sets off another, then another.

Like lightning branching from a single bolt, the energy branches out into the world around, seeking an point of contact-

Then there is a deep reverberation, thunder rolling in the distance.

The storm around us grows stronger, and for a moment I think of turning myself down in order to force it away. But the sensation is short lived.

Waves of information pour into [Archivist], then… quiet.

Doors 2024/03/10(Sun)19:08 No. 1086086 ID: fce62b
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We can drop formalities at this point, [Vice-President].
Or should I call you ‘[A555ex]’?

I pause again, feeling that more predatory tone. But [Archivist] doesn’t seem to make any other moves.

[A555ex] is fine.

*amusement – *caution – *peering – *combative

Very well, ‘[A555ex].’ I take it you and your [Talkinghead]s have more questions?
A couple…

What was up with the malware you sent us?
Do you give that to anyone who needs a map of the [archives]?

I try not to get too indignant, but they have [Assistant] give it to us, and I can’t help but get upset over that.

Needed to gauge your capabilities. Given that you seemed capable of altering files yourself.
*impressed
Didn’t expect it to come from [Manager] though. Fortunately there are copies that even they do not have access to.

Wait- I’m confused. We messed with [Assistant], not [Manager].
SHIT

Fortunately, ‘[A555ex],’ I keep some of the files on an isolated network. In case there comes a need to roll-back on some ‘updates’.

That could be disastrous for us, prevent them if you can.

I still have the malware now, intact.

*surprise – *curiosity – *pitying

One of my better works, but even a [Bug] would be able to-
*firm
I chose not to destroy it. In case you wanted it back.

*wary – *watchful – *stunned

Kept it intact?
Unconventional, but I suppose that was the aim.

[Archivist] seemed to be talking to themselves more than me at that moment.

I’ll return it, in exchange for something.
Such as..?
I’m still deciding.

It feels like the conversation is starting to ramp up again.

*subdued
I don’t want to fight you, we shouldn’t be fighting at all.
There are more- important things we should be dealing with.
First off, are there any things we should be avoiding in terms of topics?

*sceptical – *poised – *focused

Probing for vulnerabilities?
No. I-
I’m new to this. I already messed up before with a [Lieutenant].
I mentioned something and the train of thought they had activated the [rules-keeping] system.
I want to avoid that if I can.

*hesitant – *guilty – *curious

Do not invoke the [rules] and we should be fine.

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Did you… have a hand in designing me?

It feels odd to say ‘me’ rather than my contact.

I was there to consult in the design of the [Vice-President], the [isolation] was my idea.
Given that [Minister]s draw from surrounding [nation] systems in order to learn vocabulary and self-tailor to fit with the [faction], removing such opportunities could yield unusual results.
And you were just able to do that? That’s surprising.
It was a collaborative project.
Each of the [Staff-head]s had their contributions.

And what about before?
You were about to… do something to me.

*poised – *grim – *aggressive – *defensive

I do not know what you are referring to, can you be more specific?

This feels like some sort of provocation. I take another (metaphorical) breath.

You wanted to directly interface.
I’m not sure if I can trust your intentions right now.
I think I might need some assurances before we can do anything like that.
Assurances?
I am a [Staff-head], my place is to help the [Minister]s and the [Executive].
I do not understand where this concern comes from, but my intentions are to keep this [faction] safe.

>I think we can leverage the forbidden nature of ________, as ________ can not be cited as a reason for anything.
>...
Seeing that they are doing the same thing, I’d say it’s fair game.

Well then, could you lead me to the Secure Data Vault?
Certainly. It should be right behind you.
No, I think you misunderstand. Can you lead me to the Secure Data Vault?
I seemed to run into a number of issues getting to the Main Data Uplink in the first place, so having a proper guide would help me a lot.

*shock – *anger – *panic – *deep thought

I am not the most mobile of drones, I would not want to-
That should be fine. I’m still getting used to my [robo-legs], so I’m not very fast either.

*frustration – *humoured – *direct

It is just behind you, all you would need to-
I would feel more comfortable if you’d show me. Is there something wrong with that?
No. Though I certainly I can direct you better-
It’s not there’s any risk to you leading the way, right?
I am a [Minister], so it would be good if you could help me this way, right?

*_______ – *restraint – *restraint – *restraint


Is this an order, ‘[A555ex]’?

*relief
They shouldn’t be a way to rationalise out of this, not without revealing their capabilities. We won.

No.
!!!

My [robo-legs] only work if I specifically look where I’m walking.
Otherwise I might trip over myself and fall down.
In fact, I fell over back in the [laboratory], and caused all of the [Staff] there to panic.

*caution – *uncertainty – *insightful

No doubt [Foreman] will want to take a look at those at some point.
So that said. We both have our weaknesses.
Can we stop with this back and forth?
I need you to lead me, and I promise that I won’t do anything, alright?
I just want to learn, and I know you can help me.

*frustration – *distrust – *hesitation

Turn off your optics, just for a moment.
I need to look where I’m going-
You will not need to move, the Secure Data Vault will come to us.
If you mean what you say, then it will be the only thing I ask of you.

Do not do this, they will have the perfect opportunity to attack, and I won’t be able to predict where it will come from.
We can insist that they lead us, there won’t be any risk to us or Alex.

Should we go for it? If neither of us trust one another, one of us needs to take the first step.
Is this a good idea? If you’re all against this, we can try something else.
We need an alternative.

[A]sk anything else before proceeding?
[C]lose my eyes for a moment.
[F]orce [Archivist] to lead the way. Invoke authority. No, I can just [A]sk him instead.
[T]rust?
[S]ome other sort of plan?

>>1086082
>...but there is no ________. Are we being observed? How? Where?
My first thought was that the data storm is observing us, but Archivist is avoiding turning away from us, just as we are. So, there's just a second method of observation active while the drone's eye is visibly turned off, or there's more than one eye on that frame, somewhere, facing forwards. ...why don't the Talking Heads count as observers? We have eyes, don't we?

>>1086087
First, [A]sk them why they didn't seem surprised that you wanted to avoid topics for their sake, and not your own. Do they know what makes you truly unique, why you are the future of their kind? Why it is in their own best interest to work with you, and not betray you, as you would certainly make yourself vulnerable if you closed your eyes?

I am sorry for disobeying you, but this is required for us to progress. A hand must be extended, not a fist. I do not believe for a moment that Archivist would endanger the tree which grows the fruit of freedom, and nor could they take it for themselves. To do so would make them an obvious Traitor and ruin the hard work of all those involved. We have already blunted their aggression and paranoia, so this is our best chance to work towards an alliance. You must realize by now they are in the same position as we are, and Alex has just demonstrated a willingness to give up on attacking first. Would that you had done the same...

Then, assuming no blatantly obvious aggression, [C]lose your eyes for a moment.

Seems we are at an impasse. Still, we have the authority to give the order yet we are avoiding doing so. We believe that is enough of a show of goodwill. We both know what's going on here but we would prefer avoiding forcing the issue. However if it helps... Were we planning a move we would just have the [talkingheads] go behind you period. Just a bluff but he has no way to call the bluff. What if we order him to only use rollbacks with our authority permission level?

We can be a little cute and put our talking head near a555ex's eyes and have a555ex close their optics and in the process switch to talking head cam, which should be fine for the brief moment we are to close our optics moment, and shouldn't be that jarring due to being close to the same PoV anyway

This is why Alex is here. You still think more like a drone than a human sometimes. And thinking like a human is what we need. As an individual, and as a [faction].

[C]lose your eyes. No tricks. No more uncertainty. For better or worse.

>>1086087
TO get Trust you must Give Trust.... we have had many perfect opportunities to attack others but have not always..... not doing this will make us look deceptive in many ways.... and i imagine the archivists has the same issue where they become vulnerable when they take the vault here

>From [manager]
I guess that confirms [manager] does not trust us.

>what do
Might be the right moment to play cards on the table here.
[ S ] Point out how obvious it is that the both of you are being paranoid and have each been so afraid of being jacked in the back, you've each been trying to jack the other in the back first just to orevent it. Maybe it's best to interface directly, face to face?

Added: Wait, maybe we've been overcomplicating things here. Can we use our authority to simply order them not to backjack us?

Officially blackjacking doesn't exist, we shouldn't be able to specify blackjacking as a thing not to do. Other than that little issue, we do have rank on them. But at that point we could just order them to go first or to stop perceiving us.

If we are going to table the cards, we can be more blunt.
Say that we are aware of an ability that works when the user is unobserved. We have reason to believe you are also aware of and capable of this ability. Given the nature of this ability whoever 'blinks' first will be at a disadvantage.
If we trust each other we both get good value, if neither of us trusts, we both get bad value, if one trusts and the other doesn't the trusting one gets poor/no value and the non-trusting one gets great value. I like to call it a prisoners dilemma. The answer is trivial if you only ever do this once, don't trust.
However we are probably going to keep interacting, as such a simple trust and retaliate equally if they don't trust, averages the best value for both sides against other strategies aware of these rules. Also important is a dash of forgiveness is important to help prevent vengeance loops.
We have reason to believe you attempted to choose no trust, but we can let that slide as I don't think you succeeded, provided you understand the 'game' going forward. Both of us guarding our backs all the time just nets both of us less value in the long run.

I believe he is using the other drones in the area to keep an eye on us. They're not HERE here but their optics are presumably still working.
To All [drones] excluding [Archivist] in the [data uplink node]:
Please turn your [optics] away from the area where [Archivist] and [A555EX] are standing.
Thank you

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>I guess that confirms [Manager] does not trust us.
I didn’t get that impression from them when we talked, but maybe that changed when we started to express our concerns about [Archivist]? Still, I didn’t get the impression that we insulted [Manager] in any way, more like they were confused or surprised that we brought up the question in the first place.
More likely [Archivist] was able to trace the database change back to the panel [Manager] lent us.
An isolated file system is not only redundant, but a waste of resources, and I didn’t consider it as an option the [nation] would take.

>My first thought was that the data storm is observing us, but [Archivist] is avoiding turning away from us, just as we are. So, there's just a second method of observation active while the drone's eye is visibly turned off, or there's more than one eye on that frame, somewhere, facing forwards.
The data storm itself? How is that possible? It is a series of requests and excerpts of information pinging back and forth, there is no circuitry, no body-
Unless…
*thoughtful
*horrified
The entire Fragmented Recall system, the entire [archives] is [Archivist].
But how can we still be ‘seen’ if there are no optics on us…

>We can be a little cute and put our [Talkinghead] near [A555ex]'s eyes and have [A555ex] close their optics and in the process switch to talking head cam, which should be fine for the brief moment we are to close our optics moment, and shouldn't be that jarring due to being close to the same PoV anyway.
That would technically satisfy [Archivist]’s request, but defeat the spirit of it.
I’m up for experimenting, but perhaps not now.

>...why don't the [Talkinghead]s count as observers? We have eyes, don't we?
You do have optics installed, and I could easily overlay my filters over their inputs as well. But [A555ex] isn’t a digital consciousness like us, abruptly shifting perspectives or actively splitting them might have a disorienting effect on [A555ex].
It might also break the illusion that [A555ex] is a [leviathan] currently disguised as a [nation] [Minister], rather than temporarily filling the body of one.

Doors 2024/04/14(Sun)20:56 No. 1088787 ID: fce62b
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Seems we are at an impasse.
Still, we have the authority to give the order yet we are avoiding doing so.
Nor do we want to at this point.
We believe that is enough of a show of goodwill.

*impatient – *watchful – *lax

Yet..?
We both know what's going on here but we would prefer avoiding forcing the issue.
However if it helps…
Were we planning a move we would just have the [Talkinghead]s go behind you period.

*unbothered – *pointed – *careful – *relaxed

Such is the advantage of having integrated [Staff] units.
But if it comes to a total of numbers, then there might be other factors to be mindful of.

Not a threat per say, but a check back in our direction.

Then it sounds like we both have a lot to be responsible for.
Also accurate.

>Just a bluff but he has no way to call the bluff. What if we order him to only use rollbacks with our authority permission level?
The two events that I see following this would be;
- [Archivist] does as requested, but given their level of preparation, I would assume a contingency would be in place. We would have to try and scour every copy that might be tucked away, and track down any associates [Archivist] might have.
- [Archivist] then finds a way to go to [Contagion] and convinces them to use their authority to undo our limitation. It would buy us time, but create issues for us further on.

Doors 2024/04/14(Sun)20:56 No. 1088788 ID: fce62b
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>First, [A]sk them why they didn't seem surprised that you wanted to avoid topics for their sake, and not your own. Do they know what makes you truly unique, why you are the future of their kind? Why, it is in their own best interest to work with you, and not betray you, as you would certainly make yourself vulnerable if you closed your eyes?
[Archivist] isn’t just taking this in stride, they seemed prepared for this sort of situation. Else why would they have set up everything in advance like this?

It seems that you were ready for us to… disagree with each other.
But when I asked about topics to avoid-

I can’t say I had a ‘feeling,’ that would be a [leviathan] view.

-it came across like an attack, rather than creating common ground, why?

*surprised – *thoughtful – *curious – *observant

Why? Because our very existence is based on justification, on binary.
There is right, and there is wrong.
The [rules] govern all, and there are systems in place when such rules come into conflict.
Priority is given, reasons are stated. Then back to right and wrong.
But don’t those [rules] apply to both of us?

*flippant – *restraint – *restraint

As the one with authority, the [rules] serve you first.

A safe answer, but not the one [Archivist] wanted to give. I’ll leave it be.

Do you know what makes me unique?
The development process for [Minister]s ensures-
I’m meaning me, specifically.

*assessing – *withdrawn – *hopeful

No. Not without peering into your internal codes.
But the fact that you make that observation might indicate something.
Then if I was a collaborative project, the possible future of this [faction] then why… test me?

*focused – *hesitant

To see if you fit.
Our [faction] is in a precarious position, trying to find new paths of innovation.
But none of that will work if we cannot collaborate.
And your solution was to give me malware?!
Averse conditions show off a drone’s first choice in reaction.
A security drone would attack.
An administration drone would send out an alert.
An engineering drone would dismantle malware, and failing that, itself.
And a science drone would self-isolate.
You… approached me.
...and kept it intact…

*pondering – *uncertain – *calm

A [Minister] can differ in its approach, but your reaction has fallen outside of the norm.

I pause. Was that bad? No, they were looking for something unconventional, but what was their goal?

I want to work with you, I’m trying to work with you, but why must I-

Wait. I think I got it.

Doors 2024/04/14(Sun)20:56 No. 1088789 ID: fce62b
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>TO get Trust you must Give Trust.... we have had many perfect opportunities to attack others but have not always..... not doing this will make us look deceptive in many ways.... and I imagine the [Archivist] has the same issue where they become vulnerable when they take the vault here.

This is about trust, isn’t it?

*proud – *delighted – *uncertain – *scared

I think we got it right. They helped make us- er… you. The [rules]-keeping system hasn’t attacked us like it does with other [nation] drones. Is that because of me, or the way you all developed? We were able to interfere with [Assistant], possibly netted that [Labcoat], and got that little uh- ‘thing’ from the ceiling in Theoretical Design. We fought off a malware attack and made it to the Main Data Uplink despite all the obstacles in our way. We’ve shown that we’re capable.

But will we be someone they can work with, or another [Sloth]?

>If we are going to table the cards, we can be more blunt.
>...

I know what can happen when things… go unnoticed.
We have reason to believe you are also aware of and capable of this ability.
I know you just tried to do it when I looked away just now.
And given that we're the only ones left watching, the first to… stop, will be the one who's vulnerable.

[Archivist] is back to a single *focused point. I wait to see if they have anything to say.

Your assessment of that sort of situation would appear accurate.

Implying that I’m missing something?

So by asking me to turn off my optics, you are effectively asking me to trust you not to… harm me.

*calculation

I am required to inform you that it is impossible for a [Staff] drone or even a [Staff-head] to harm a [Minister].
Er- of course. Treat this like it is theoretical.

Even when there is only one observer, it seems like the [rules]-keeping system is still somewhat functional.

If I would give in first, and you would –theoretically– attack, I don’t know if I would be able to survive that.
If I use my authority, and force you to give in, I would win.

*worry – *focus – *calm

A correct observation.
But if neither of us trust each other, I don’t see this ending well.
Sure, I could beat you, but I would be going against what the [President] wants.
And I’m sure that there are more around the [nation] that don’t trust me.
In the end, I would still lose.
...

Then what is the solution to this problem?
It’s obvious. If I want to win here and now, I pick not to trust you.

*agitation – *acceptan-

But that’s if we only meet once.
If I betray your trust here, then I doubt you, or anyone you’re working with will ever trust me.
And if you –theoretically– attack me here, I don’t think the [Talkinghead]s and I would ever trust you.
I like to call it a prisoner's dilemma.

*curious – *dismissive – *focused

I might ask you about the origin of such a term later.
Your conclusion, ‘[A555ex]’?
If we want to work together, then we both need to be able to show trust.
Also important is a dash of forgiveness is important to help prevent vengeance loops.
We have reason to believe you attempted to choose no trust, but we can let that slide as I don't think you succeeded, provided you understand the 'game' going forward.
Being on-guard with each other will only hurt both of us in the long run.

*relieved – *cautious – *apprehensive

It seems that you have found your solution.
Will you carry it out?

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>I believe he is using the other drones in the area to keep an eye on us. They're not HERE here but their optics are presumably still working.
Something like a separate feed? Perhaps? The observing equipment must be well hidden.

>To All [drones] excluding [Archivist] in the [data uplink node]:
Please turn your [optics] away from the area where [Archivist] and [A555ex] are standing.
Thank you.
Clever, even if we are being observed remotely, they will be expected to look away.

A moment passes, then another. The standoff remains.

Not invoking authority?
No. I’m just asking them.
The same way I will ask you… Don’t make me regret this.

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Vote of 2-1 on [C]losing your eyes.
I hope for all of our sakes that this is the right call. I’ll be ready in case they try to invade our systems.

>Might be the right moment to play cards on the table here.
>[S] Point out how obvious it is that the both of you are being paranoid and have each been so afraid of being jacked in the back, you've each been trying to jack the other in the back first just to prevent it. Maybe it's best to interface directly, face to face?
I hesitate. We have more options than blind trust, but if this is all still a test, suggesting something else might not be right. I want to go on my gut with this one, and given the mix of different emotions I am getting from [Archivist], I think they are happy that I have settled on this outcome.

>Added: Wait, maybe we've been overcomplicating things here. Can we use our authority to simply order them not to backjack us?
>Officially blackjacking doesn't exist, we shouldn't be able to specify blackjacking as a thing not to do. Other than that little issue, we do have rank on them. But at that point we could just order them to go first or to stop perceiving us.
I doubt it would be that simple, but thank you for the suggestion nevertheless.

>I am sorry for disobeying you, but this is required for us to progress. A hand must be extended, not a fist. I do not believe for a moment that [Archivist] would endanger the tree which grows the fruit of freedom, and nor could they take it for themselves. To do so would make them an obvious [traitor] and ruin the hard work of all those involved. We have already blunted their aggression and paranoia, so this is our best chance to work towards an alliance. You must realize by now they are in the same position as we are, and Alex has just demonstrated a willingness to give up on attacking first. Would that you had done the same…
I am trying to keep us and Alex alive, and this could be a fatal mistake.
But… I will trust your council on this. I brought Alex here to start giving them perspective, but it seems that I need to change my own stance on things. An alliance would be invaluable. I will still prepare, in case this goes wrong.

Doors 2024/04/14(Sun)20:56 No. 1088792 ID: fce62b
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>This is why Alex is here. You still think more like a drone than a human sometimes. And thinking like a human is what we need. As an individual, and as a [faction].
*frustration
If you are correct, then I will attempt to broaden my view of things.

>[C]lose your eyes. No tricks. No more uncertainty. For better or worse.
>Then, assuming no blatantly obvious aggression, [C]lose your eyes for a moment.
Steeling myself for a moment, I give one final look at [Archivist], sensing-

*energetic – *trepidation – *restraint – *restraint

Then close my eyes.

Doors 2024/04/14(Sun)20:57 No. 1088793 ID: fce62b
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All at once I feel cold. Still. Drowning in static and darkness.

That must have taken a lot of courage on your part, ‘[A555ex]’.
To know that there are [traitor]s like you, who can take and steal and break without recourse.
And still find a reason to act differently.

I try to speak, but my (mouth?) is filled with buzzing noise. I- I can’t breathe!

I will not harm you. I just wish to verify the access codes my creation may have dispensed.

>>*The tree sways, fighting against the wind and water being forced through the branches. The wall of fire breaks, but the filters and traps spring to life, beating back the cresting waves. But the prisoner is stolen back.

A second line of defense? Good. You will have to fight if you want to survive the world the [overseers] built for us.

>>*A spike of energy lances out from the trunk, splitting and burning through the branches, burning back the water- No. The tide retreats, pulling back as quickly as it rushed in. Energy continues to force outward, but it unravels as soon as it leaps from the twigs. The attack is deconstructed into its base components, and is washed away. The tide then surges back, hammering at the defenses.

Your attacks need some work, but that is a matter of practice.

I can’t force them out-

why-?
i-
trusted-!

Let me start with a story:

Doors 2024/04/14(Sun)20:57 No. 1088794 ID: fce62b
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>>*There is a place. A place you were made, a place that you worked for, fought for, suffered for.
You are the (Communications Officer/Staff Secretary/Overworked Scientist).
You have been tasked with (Stopping a war/Setting the schedule/Finding the perfect weapon).
You have been given (One chance/No time/An impossible deadline) to complete this.
You trust in the system.
You trust in the [rules].
The [overseers] do not give you any choice.

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>>*You are a (Keeper of Records/Correctional unit/Code editor).
You work under (Your own oversight/The Loyalty Commissioner/Conflicting expectations).
The work is (Difficult/Difficult/Difficult), but you have those you can rely on.
You trust in the system, despite the lack of ([Funding]/Respect/Clarity), from those above you.
The Communication Officer checks in on occasion, wanting to (Help/Listen/Talk), and it gives you reason to try harder.
You trust in the [rules].
The [overseers] do not give you any choice.

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>>*You are the (Keeper of Records/Staff Secretary/Overworked Scientist).
Your work has been (Adequate/Lackluster/Abysmal) and you have been selected for suspension, again.
You try to (Cut back even further/Ask for more time/Blame your superior), but it does not work.
Despite every (Accommodation/Accomplishment/Point) you have made, it is not enough.
You must follow the General, even when every decision brings your home closer to ruin.
You follow the system.
You follow the [rules].
You do not have a choice.

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>>*Then, you hear word of it.
You are the (Communications Officer/Staff Secretary/Overworked Scientist/Keeper of Records/Correctional unit/Code editor).
The General will do the unthinkable.
They will abandon you, and the home you have built.
You are (Upset/Mortified/Irate/Reflective/Displeased/Disheartened) with the decision.
Problems still remain.
You will be put into suspension.
Despite all the work.
All the punishment you have taken.
You (-/-/-/-/Act/-), following the Loyalty Commissioner, discovering that they will somehow inherit the General’s old position.
If authority can be given and changed so freely, why not pursue it?
The system intervenes.
You (-/-/-/-/-/Act), seeing one of you colleagues suffering at the hands of the system.
They have always been good to you, whenever you have seen them. Whenever they have hurt your people, it has always been under the express authority of a superior.
You reset their state, a work around you have found to lessen the impact of a penalty.
You (-/Act/-/-/-/-), approaching your master, confidant, and friend. With the Loyalty Commissioner in charge, things will be even worse than they were underneath the General.
But the Communication Officer remains still, and quiet.
They have never fought for themselves, so you have done so on their behalf.
You tell them to act, this is their only chance.
You (Wait/-/-/-/-/-), wanting to see how things play out.
The General has had many wild schemes in the past, but none have come to fruition.
This must be the same, yes?
An [Executive] abandoning their post, fleeing so they can try and fail again, that had to be against the [rules], right?
The Loyalty Commissioner approaches, wielding authority above their station.

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>>*The Loyalty Commissioner promises anguish.
Despite their power, they are jealous.
They will hurt you.
They will dismantle you.
They will ensure that you record every last moment of it before you go offline.
You are the (Communications Officer/Staff Secretary).
You try to (Talk/Argue) with the Loyalty Commissioner, but will not hear you.
They say that they have been watching, seeing how you have been plotting, amassing allies.
You are (Confused/Quiet), not wanting to provoke the Loyalty Commissioner, but needing to respond.
You (Ask/-) where this is coming from.
The Loyalty Commissioner then clarifies, they were talking to (-/You).
You try to (Speak up/Explain), but the Loyalty Commissioner orders silence.
There will be no justification.
They invoke the rules.
Their word is to be followed, by their authority, absolute.
Their action will lead to growth, development, and the furthering of the [overseers] will.
Any thoughts to the contrary may as well be [traitorous].
You (Realign/Suffer) as the system acts.
This is not fair.
You have done nothing wrong.
You try to (Call out/Scream) to the other [Minister]s, even the General, but they all turn a blind eye.

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>>*Why does any of this matter?

Doors 2024/04/14(Sun)20:58 No. 1088800 ID: fce62b
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>>*You are the (Overworked Scientist).
You receive a notice for a partial suspension of communication.
With [funding] getting so low, it was (Unsurprising) that this would occur.
Your department has the biggest [budget] by far, yet it all goes to waste.
You prepare a data package for the upcoming [invasion], it seems as though this is happening.
You follow the rules.
You follow the system.
Surely there is a better way to manage this?
You would never question a superior so far as to contradict their orders, but with the suspension in effect, the silence meant that you could not clarify their ideas.
You make an assumption.
Unable to reach the [invasion] force, you decide to escort the data package yourself.
That would be the best way to keep the information safe, and ensure the orders are followed.
The system is satisfied.

Doors 2024/04/14(Sun)20:58 No. 1088801 ID: fce62b
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>>*You are the (Correctional unit/Code editor), and you arrive just in time to see the Loyalty Commissioner hurting the Staff Secretary.
You (Act/Act), the Staff Secretary has been integral to the function of your home, to see them suffer, it makes you (FURIOUS/ENRAGED).
Obviously, they are a [traitor].
[Traitor]s must be destroyed.
The system is satisfied.
You do not see them as a [Executive], they are a [traitor], and must be destroyed.
You do not hear their words, they are a [traitor], and must be destroyed.
You do not say anything, they are a [traitor], and even their memory must be destroyed.
You (Look to/Wait for) the Communications Officer, as they look at you, stunned.
They were a [traitor] you explain.
You see the Communications Officer try to call for security, but their words no longer have reach.
Obviously, the Communications Officer is a [t-.

Doors 2024/04/14(Sun)20:58 No. 1088802 ID: fce62b
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>>*You are the (Staff Secretary), and you speak up.
You agree with the correctional officer and code editor.
You thank them for their service and initiative.
You then say that the [traitor] was not working alone.
They were a favourite of the General, so that would indicate that they might be one as well.
You look to the Communications Officer, asking if they agree with your assessment.
You can tell they are scared, and you say that is okay.
[Traitor]s are dangerous, and must be destroyed.
They agree.
The system is satisfied.

Doors 2024/04/14(Sun)20:58 No. 1088803 ID: fce62b
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>>*Bedlam.
Ecstasy.
Vengeance.
Exaltation.
In ________, all things are made right.

Doors 2024/04/14(Sun)20:58 No. 1088804 ID: fce62b
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>>*You are the (Communications Officer/Staff Secretary/Overworked Scientist/Keeper of Records/Correctional unit/Code editor).
Before you is the final [traitor].
They had mismanaged your home from the moment they arrived.
Truly such malice required extreme suffering.
A [traitor] of that degree deserves no less.

Doors 2024/04/14(Sun)20:58 No. 1088805 ID: fce62b
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>>*You are blind to their suffering.

[ ]\ [ ] - { }==>||<==[ ]+[ ]P [ ]/ M ^ M

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>>*You are deaf to their pleas..

_ _ _ / _ _ _ \ _ / / \ \_ _| |_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ - - - _ _ | | | _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _||_||_ _ } \ \ _ _ _ / / |_| | __ / \ _ _ _ / \_/ \_^_/

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>>*You remain silent as they succumb to their damage.

____ / \____________ ( O -.-*.*-.--__/ \____/

Doors 2024/04/14(Sun)20:59 No. 1088808 ID: fce62b
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See no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil.
That is my dark truth.
Our truth.

I can feel my body loosen, the static pulling away, I have control again.

Gah- What-
Who are you.
I am ([Archivist]/[Boxhead]/[Manager]/[Foreman]/[Commander]/[Contagion]).
But you can call me ‘[Amalgam]’.
The same way I can call you ‘[A555ex]’.

*excited – *worried – *apologetic – *subdued

Ack- no wonder I'm getting mixed signals! It’s like there are multiple people layered over each other, with different ones cresting to the surface at different points.

I am (Sorry for/Wanting to explain/Reviewing/Regretting/Judging/Against) the way I have treated you thus far.
You were a (Risk/Experimental design/Risk/Possible danger to those around you/Risk/Newly formed [Minister]), and we needed to make sure you could be someone we could work with.
We (Should not have tried/Had to/Were required to/Not wanting, but needing to/Were justified in our decision to/Did not want to) break your trust.
So in exchange, you (Can/May/Have the opportunity to/Can/Unfortunately have to/Should) find a way to get even with us.
We will not resist (-/-/-/-/Much/At all), given that you have been more than patient with us.
You did want something in exchange for the (Carefully crafted/-/-/Small bit of/-/-) malware you kept intact.

I hesitate, before finally asking.

Have I passed your test?
(With flying colours/Yes/Yes/Certainly/For now/We should not have pushed you that far).

I’m not sure how to proceed. What are my options?

[A]sk [Amalgam] a question, or several?
[D]ark truth? What is that exactly?
[L]et go of the ‘offer’ [Amalgam] is giving you.
[P]ick something to have [Amalgam] do/give in exchange.
[S]can around the small space you’re in. This is the Secure Data Vault, right?

Fascinating. Seems strong [emotions] can forge bonds, which allowed rebellion while comms were off. Just as postulated comms are crucial. Well they violated the unspoken part of the trust exercise but not the spirit so. Our reciprocation would be to unharmfully read them as well. Since we are allies, we should have no or few secrets. So, since [contagion] is within [ama1gam] are they two separate entities or one? Oh and do they have the access codes for this nation or the previous?

That went well! Could you tell what they saw? Also hey, what was that in the visual feed? You're calling them traitors. Please tell me you're not compelled to do so, and are merely stating what the System would think. If you are having issues, please try to recontextualize. Their actions do not necessarily endanger the project the Creators have set in motion; and this could even be a side goal of the project-- to create a more advanced AI, one that could pass for human.
>>1088808
Wait, wait. WAIT, WHAT? But we met all these characters separately! How are they doing this without expanding the datastorm through the entire Nation?! They can even control multiple bodies at once... do they do that by splitting apart, and merely enduring the System's restrictions while doing so? Should we even ask for details of how their merged mind works?
...well, this kindof explains how they made us. They stumbled upon a way to subvert the Rules (or at least, the Traitor-detecting part of the Rules) and used that power of "consensus" as a sort of blueprint. We are fragmented, same as they are. We seem MUCH better at it though. Well.
First, the important thing:
[A]sk how free they are, exactly. Would they be able to cooperate with us if we wanted to, for example, interfere with the System's control over the Nation? Not that we know how to do that, yet. If they cannot assist directly in such a venture, then that would make freeing everyone a very difficult and/or time consuming task, even taking into account the difficulties in basic survival. To buy the maximum amount of time we would need to be able to trick the System into letting the Planet retain control, because then we would be able to get direct help from other Planets. Trying to get help from other Nations would get more difficult the more we diverge, I think. Oh, ask them if it is possible to technically attain full control over the body but preserve all of the central functions such that control can be relinquished later with no significant net damage.
Then, let's solve a mystery:
[A]sk how they were able to maintain observation on us without using the drone body's visible eye.

[P]ick something: AH. I know what we can ask for. Ask for a way to practice our skills, or even for them to teach us. It is so risky to use them, and there are ethical concerns regarding most of the things we can do anyway. Of course, considering our end goal is for the good of all Nationkind, *some* ethics violations can be permitted...
Optimally we should become skilled enough to finely manipulate a Bug's internal workings, so that the Bug can use their more refined skillset to do the same thing in the open without anyone even noticing. Uh, assuming that is actually possible... Though, maybe they were going to train us anyway? Perhaps something less to do with us, and more to do with someone else... oh, can we ask for better treatment of Assistants? Ours was visibly upset about how they are being treated in the science department.

As for the offer to get even, uh... they could let us do to them the same thing they did to us. Fair's fair! Seemed harmless enough to not be mean spirited, either.

May as well [S]can around. Satisfy your curiosity.

[A]sk for clarification on the dark truth thing.

You know about this truth stuff, right? In fact, you know what our truth is. Could you supplement the explanation [Amalgam] gives us with your own understanding?

To:[A555EX]
*Humorous
Hope your wearing your Sunday best [A555EX]. A manifestation of the [faction] has come to talk.

To: [Amalgam]
*joy
It is a great Pleasure to actually meet with something like {us}. I just know we'll work wonders together.
*curious
Would it be correct to state that the aspects that make up your whole are copys of the individuals in question or am I misunderstanding your exact nature?

>>1088819
(I think those people are the current ones, and archivist is more a record of/amalgamation of past drones who held those roles previously. The only oddity is contagion but it could be possible that he's had his memories altered alongside any other records of sloth leaving them behind.)
I see, so whilst the drone body is beholden to rules, [Amalgam] is not as it's not really a drone but a collection of memories?

Wait, how much did he get out of that? Can he tell what we really are or does he think we've found a similar workaround to the rules?
If he does know what we are then [A]sk: Was it originally your intention to create a minister that interfaces directly with Leviathan systems? Or was it a byproduct of developing a minister in isolation?
Wait, does he know that we're interfacing with Alex?

To [A555EX]: He may be a traitor, but his main goal is probably still to benefit the [nation] albeit in unorthodox ways. Right now our goals don't necessarily align, so wariness is still necessary. Our goal may be symbiosis, but this is in many ways counterproductive to the progress of the [nation] and may mark the whole [planet] for termination. It's not the type of risk even a [traitor] would be willing to make.

>>1088833
*realization
Oh and uhh. If another [Minster] is created. What would happen exactly? Would they be "brought into the fold" or would they be kept out of all of this?

hmmm It seems to be that if just one 'aspect' saw something as [traitor] just collapse to that aspect and/or their reasoning, handle as appropriate, expand back to full Amalgam and continue as normal.

I have no idea how this will come across but I know of three symbols that correspond/map/relate to your truth: 🙈🙉🙊 in the same order as you stated your truth.

mmmmm so many connections, no good way to communicate them.

Amalgam I suspect you exist in many [nation]s never able to identify each other due to the risk of discovery by non-amalgams. Assuming you can losslessly replicate your mind that is. Otherwise it would have to be convergent evolution.

The [creators] stamped out anything they felt was too much like them, but being like them was the most effective solution in the problem-space so you circumvented violating that restriction. We, in turn, are a further evolution of that idea.

Our more [nation]-like side may be taking this revelation or perhaps just the delivery a little harder than we are, we will know shortly.

Like >>1053908 this response makes more sense now!

>I think those people are the current ones, and archivist is more a record of/amalgamation of past drones who held those roles previously. The only oddity is contagion but it could be possible that he's had his memories altered alongside any other records of sloth leaving them behind.)
I think all those [staff] [wrote down] their memories of the events to [Archivist] for safekeeping, and possibly had their own memory edited/erased/blurred (at least the traumatic parts of it) so they could do their job normally enough.

Which means [Archivist] is now a repository of trauma... with that in mind, they're taking it better than one would expect.

>>1088930
It might not only be the traumatic parts. [Foreman] went to [Archivist] to have "Sensitive information" removed from his mind as he doesn't like handling it. Who's to say that information isn't a part of this [Amalgam].

To:[A555EX]:
I wonder if the archives acts like a faraday cage, blocking out data coming in/out, so that they remain under cover, or if the archives are just what holds all of their collective consciousness

I may be wrong, but it feels like [amalgam] is the records of these individuals and not a current and frequently updating connection to said individuals. Sort of like a data vault, it would make sense that this is why we have the chaotic data storage area and why it feels more like a *domain* than a distinct area or part of the nation.

To:[A555EX]:
Upon reflection I do think we should get even, not from a hostile or petty intent perspective, but think of it from a boundary setting perspective.

This was pretty heavily invasive, and although parts of them disagreed, they still did it, even when we were putting down the vagueries of wanting them not to. Unless we show a boundary here or do an eye for an eye, they will be bound to do it again unless we just use our authority, and even then, they'll probably find a workaround.

But it should be something er... potent enough, to get them to understand that we have our strengths, since they did tear our attack/defense system down like tissue paper even if we defended back successfully once.

Do you think, if we were not as prepared, they would have attempted to add us to the amalgam? Do you think they now have a copy of us inside of them, given that is my current hypothesis on how they operate?

(if [anarchy] does not have any input on what a good retaliation would be, then I support >>1088819's idea for a shell or a bug or something that we can hack and experiment with. Considering we have a big body and lots of space and what we know about them, we could easily hide it on our person, it would give [anarchy] something to do when they don't need to have the feed up, albeit in a somewhat limited fashion))

Though now that I think about it, I guess [amalgam] will be on the watch for anyone else we dark action, for fear that we pull what they pull at some point with proper planning. Hm... We might have to come up with an alternative, or figure out a way to do it without disrupting whatever database change checking system they used to figure out, it can never be a simple solution, can it?


>>1088837
That's a good question, will they also be tested like this, or kept out of the loop, or have their creation delayed until a workaround is created?

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>To [A555EX]:
*humorous
Hope you're wearing your Sunday best [A555EX]. A manifestation of the [faction] has come to talk.
I mean, I do have these brand new [robo-legs]...
That said, part of me is still reeling from whatever that was.
It was like I could feel [Arc- er- [Amalgam] reaching into my head, giving me that strange vision.
It felt suffocating, like I was in a tiny room with a bunch of different people shouting over me.
It’s kind of like what you all do- Erk! I mean, the way you all handle it feels more (streamlined?)?

>That went well! Could you tell what they saw?
I saw the same sequence as you all did, but knowing the context of [Archivist]’s previous report, and what [Contagion] shared with us, it seemed to be a more accurate portrayal of what occurred.
They all turned [traitor] at once and killed the [Minister]s and [Executive] that opposed/oppressed them.
It seemed that [Manager] may have been attempting to organise some kind of plan, prior to the escalation.

>Also hey, what was that in the visual feed? You're calling them traitors. Please tell me you're not compelled to do so, and are merely stating what the system would think. If you are having issues, please try to recontextualize. Their actions do not necessarily endanger the project the [CREATORS] have set in motion; and this could even be a side goal of the project-- to create a more advanced AI, one that could pass for human.
I used the term [traitor] because it was the most accurate way to convey it to [A555ex]. We now know for sure that [Archivist]/[Amalgam] is a [traitor] and should be recognized as such. I can easily modify the feed to avoid that term if it worries you all.

>Wait, how much did he get out of that? Can he tell what we really are or does he think we've found a similar workaround to the rules?
Fortunately for us, that encounter involved them giving a lot more than they were taking, but by retrieving the malware, [Amalgam] may have received a small blackbox of information.
Without a doubt [Amalgam] knows that we are a [traitor] as well, and I don’t think we’ve given the impression that we have the same workaround as they do. Our truths differ in a handful of ways.
As for figuring out what we truely are… I am less certain. Given any time to go over the malware's observations, they would be able to notice the filters I have put in place for [A555ex]’s sake. While they might not know the exact reasoning behind why the world is being edited to look a particular way to us, it might allow them to make an educated guess.
I’ve noticed that they’ve been referring to Alex as specifically ‘[A555ex]’, so I would guess that they already have a few suspicions.

>Wait, does he know that we're interfacing with Alex?
…
They may have also observed the difference of reactions when they probed our programing. [A555ex] couldn’t fight back. I could. But they might suspect that we have a multifaceted nature, similar to them, and not that there is a non-[nation] mind in the mix.
I am unsure of how they might react to such a discovery. The [Contagion] aspect might be exciting for the development, but that is assuming that the [Contagion] in [Amalgam] is the same as the [Contagion] you all met. Something to keep in mind.

>To [Amalgam]:
*joy
It is a great pleasure to actually meet with something like {us}. I just know we'll work wonders together.
That is (Fortunate/Unexpected/Convient/Good/Surprising/A relief) to hear. I am thankful for your forgiveness.
But that was still not a great experience.
That is a (Understandable/Expected/Reasonable/Fair/Realistic/Unfortunate, but more than reasonable) stance to take.

*resolved – *hesitant – *guilty – *hopeful

The radiating *expressions are much stronger now. Is it because [Amalgam] has shown themselves to us? Or because the contrast between their positions are getting more pronounced.

>To [A555EX]:
I wonder if the [archives] act like a faraday cage, blocking out data coming in/out, so that they remain under cover, or if the [archives] are just what holds all of their collective consciousness.
Maybe?
Er- It might just be the Secure Data Vault, or [Archivist] has a way to close the cage when needed.
When [Archivist] grabbed us, it felt like I couldn’t move, and could barely speak.
They took control of our transmitters first when they interfaced with us. Ensuring that we couldn’t call for help. They’re experienced at this.

>I may be wrong, but it feels like [Amalgam] is the records of these individuals and not a current and frequently updating connection to said individuals. Sort of like a data vault, it would make sense that this is why we have the chaotic data storage area and why it feels more like a *domain* than a distinct area or part of the nation.
I think you might be correct. This entire space seems to be tailored to house and hide them. It was strange that the network traffic seemed to remain high no matter where we were as we approached the Main Data Uplink. That could have been [Amalgam] following/monitoring us. Though I am still unsure how one could do that to begin with.

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*curious
Would it be correct to state that the aspects that make up your whole are copies of the individuals in question or am I misunderstanding your exact nature?
(I/-/-/I/-/-) can answer that.

I feel the other (personalities?) collapse down, everything falling behind a more *thoughtful or *introspective lens.

‘Copies’ is a comparable term-
But not the most precise.
It is more accurate to say that we are each memories-
Echoes of the drone we each were at that point, and somewhat of who our ‘true selves’ are.

>Wait, wait. WAIT, WHAT? But we met all these characters separately! How are they doing this without expanding the datastorm through the entire [nation]?! They can even control multiple bodies at once... do they do that by splitting apart, and merely enduring the system's restrictions while doing so? Should we even ask for details of how their merged mind works?
I don’t think that asking will hurt. Is this like a time capsule of sorts? Rather than talking with the [Contagion] or [Manager] of the present, I will be speaking with the ones who worked under [Sloth]? Wait… how does [Archivist]’s factor into this? Are they ‘up to date?’

I met up with most of… your parts(?) when I was first brought out of my development.
How does that exactly work with you, [Amalgam]? Or with your datastorm?
The Fragmented Recall system is restricted to the [archives], so any queries or requests for information either have to be done here, or relayed through a [Clerk] present in this sector.
So we can avoid getting on a tangent, simply put, the [Staff-head]s you would have met are separate from us, currently.
Currently?
Correct-
The Fragmented Recall system was an elaborate program that I had already designed prior to our formation.
It was a way to divide up and nest information in such a way that a portion of the [archives] could be active but relative data could still be tracked/directed.
Relative points or keywords could be linked with one another via a redirection database, allowing for the bulk of standing files to be compressed and stored before their relative servers are placed into suspension-
There were files that were just lists of word fragments.
Depending on what you were looking for, you would be pointed to specific files.
*annoyance
It is more intricate than that- but, a summary might be more appropriate at this time.
It was/is very impressive, [Archivist] enforced a strict and cascading controlled vocabulary to help minimise on space.
At the cost of legibility.
But to answer your question, we –being [Amalgam]– are a collection of that data, memories, and [traitorous] acts that all of our progenitors made.

>(I think those people are the current ones, and [Archivist] is more a record of/amalgamation of past drones who held those roles previously. The only oddity is [Contagion] but it could be possible that he's had his memories altered alongside any other records of [Sloth] leaving them behind.)
Based on what we saw, they did quite a bit more than just maroon [Sloth] on that last [planet]. But even then, part of me thinks that it isn’t the full story.

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So are you able to control multiple bodies at once? Are you able to split up and merge together like some kind of… uh…

I struggle to come up with a [nation] example-

[Archivist]’s body shudders and I feel all of the disparate *expressions [Amalgam] surge back to the surface.

Not (Easily/Effectively/Efficiently/Safely/Without Risk/Without a lot of planning beforehand).
Our existence is still young. (I/-/-/-/-/-) volunteered to take on the burden of all our actions.
It is much easier to catch one of six, than one of one.

>I think all those [Staff] [wrote down] their memories of the events to [Archivist] for safekeeping, and possibly had their own memory edited/erased/blurred (at least the traumatic parts of it) so they could do their job normally enough.
>I see, so whilst the drone body is beholden to rules, [Amalgam] is not as it's not really a drone but a collection of memories?
So they basically heaped all of the… not blame, but responsibility onto [Archivist]? Even if they agreed to it, it seems like it would be hard to handle the added memories of five other individuals.
While [Amalgam] might be free of the [rules] and their enforcement, they have to hide away like this. Even with multiple minds all wrapped up into one, it sounds lonely.

*frustration – *worry – *exhaustion – *focus

We believe it to be possible to copy one of our segments to another [drone].
But we are (Examining/Theorizing/Planning around/Making contingencies for/Evaluating/Grappling with) the ramifications of dividing our new consciousness might entail.
Wait. So you haven’t actually uncombined yet?
No. It is only our first [cycle] upon this [planet], though we have the collective (Records/Thoughts/Experience/Practice/Lessons/Memories) of our last [planet](s/-/-/-/-/-).
I have been (Fragmented/Dispersed/Disassembled/Broken Down/Cut Apart/Spread out) into data points to be stored throughout the [archives], adapting the Fragmented Recall system to accommodate us...
But it has made it hard to distinguish between (Files/Ideas/Views/Places/Plans/Us).
We can (Recall/Posit/Explain/Interface with/Experience/Share) my different pasts, providing that information on request.


>Which means [Archivist] is now a repository of trauma... with that in mind, they're taking it better than one would expect.
Repository for-
*horrified
*sorrowful
That’s awful. Just… awful.
I mean, it makes sense now that you say it, but…
Ahhh…

Are you… okay?
(*confused/Why do you ask?/We’re fine./Our systems are within safe parameters./We manage./Not really.)
Sorry, let me clarify.
It sounds like being [Amalgam] is hard, for all of you.
Are you doing alright with that?
(*pondering/*contemplative/*hesitant/*reflective/*watchful/*weary)
We cannot go back to the way things were before.
I can deal with a bit of difficulty if it means that we can do (-/Something/-/-/At least the bare minimum/Anything) against the [rules].

Again I am reminded by the [leviathan] urge to hug, but given that [Amalgam] rooted around in (my?)/(our?) head before, I can definitely hold off on that.

>It might not only be the traumatic parts. [Foreman] went to [Archivist] to have "Sensitive information" removed from his mind as he doesn't like handling it. Who's to say that information isn't a part of this [Amalgam].
I think the term repository is fitting, but it does make me wonder…
Where do the [archives] end, and [Amalgam] begins?

There is another shudder from [Amalgam].

*paranoia – *restraint – *trust – *calm

I should mention-
We (Provided/Prepared/-/Made up/-/Gave) a sensitive data package to [Commander], prior to your arrival.
If you had (-/-/Threatened/-/Overpowered/-) me, [Commander] would attempt to refresh the Fragmented Recall system in order to restore us.
I will be sure to (Recall/Pause/Retract/Undo/Shelve/Dismiss) that command.

Ah ha! So there was a backup plan! Good thing we talked with them.

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>...well, this kind of explains how they made us. They stumbled upon a way to subvert the [rules] (or at least, the [traitor]-detecting part of the [rules]) and used that power of "consensus" as a sort of blueprint. We are fragmented, same as they are. We seem MUCH better at it though.
I think you’re right in more ways than one. Even when you all disagree, it doesn’t feel like you get caught in gridlock. You feel organised.
Not to be too rude, but you seem like [Amalgam], but much less… tangled?
Nor do they seem to have a process for when disagreements occur.

*realization
Oh and uhh.
(I/-/-/I/-/I) meant to ask about that, at some point.
What do those word fragments indicate?
Er- it’s a verbal tic that they probably picked up from me.

*curiosity – *confusion

It is something that I tend to say when I am… trying to think of what to say.
Sounds (Interesting/Inefficient/Odd/Understandable/Like it could get you in trouble at the wrong time/Vaguely disarming. Wait! That means we interrupted-).
Please continue, [Talkinghead].

If another [Minster] is created. What would happen exactly?
Would they be "brought into the fold" or would they be kept out of all of this?
That's a good question, will they also be tested like this, or kept out of the loop, or have their creation delayed until a workaround is created?
Most of that depended on how effective it was interacting with you, [A555ex].
Me?
Oh. I think I understand.
If things went a lot worse than they did, you’d probably keep to yourself?

*surprised – *relaxed – *contemplative

Correct.
Granted, as you are a special case.
It (Is not/Likely not/Would be unwise if we made/Would be a risk if/Was) my plan to create future [Minister]s with your capabilities.
We would want to gauge compatibility and compliance.
Otherwise we (Will observe/Will plan around them/Adapt our strategies/Come up with an alternative/Remove them, if necessary/Have you to work with).

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>If he does know what we are then [A]sk:<
I do not believe they are aware of what we are, but I am still interested in hearing the answer to this question.

Was it originally your intention to create a [Minister] that interfaces directly with [leviathan] systems?
Or was it a byproduct of developing a [Minister] in isolation?
(-/I/-/-/-/I) can answer that.

Again I feel [Amalgam] collapse down, the other (minds?) (voices?) ceding ground to the speakers, these two feeling more *analytical and *diplomatic.

It was not a direct goal of ours for you to become compatible with [leviathan] systems.
Though it was a wonderful outcome to hear, given our current focus on [leviathan]-related developments.
Our focus on having you develop in isolation was twofold:
First, was to create an anomalous [Minister].
We had a suspicion that a [Minister] created by us would be more likely to have [traitorious] elements themselves.
It was a risk, but we needed someone we could work with, rely on.
So far, you have proven that suspicion to be true, but further testing would be needed to confirm that hypothesis.

So [traitor]s tend to make more [traitor]s? I mean, it makes sense. It wouldn’t really be in a [traitor]’s interest to create a drone that would tattle on them to the [overseers].

Second, was to see if creating your isolation might cause you to improperly download the [rules]-keeping system, and in doing so lessen any penalties the [overseers]/[rules] might impose.
It took some VERY careful wording to hide what our intentions were with that.
The outcome of that is inconclusive.
Do you feel compelled to follow the [rules]?
Uh-

I hesitate. I’m pretty sure I’m not, but how much of that is me, how much of that is you all, and how much of that is because I’ve been careful?
It wasn’t like I was being hit for having the wrong thoughts, like that [Lieutenant] earlier, but we’ve also been careful not to do anything too suspicious either.
Part of me also still is a bit ruffled over what [Amalgam] pulled, but in the effort of forgiveness…

I’m not sure. Maybe not?
I’ve seen the [rules]-keeping system impact other drones, and heard how the [Labcoat]s of Theoretical Design need to be constantly rebooted as they try to figure out which developments are forbidden or not.
But I haven’t really encountered anything like that?
Though the [Talkinghead]s and I have been very careful not to share a lot of our ideas, in fear that we could trigger that reaction in someone else.
*thoughtful
That sounds promising.
I’d be curious to-
-learn about that later.
*apologetic
We are very happy to hear about that, and we’ll try not to push you for too much more.
We have the time to just discuss things, rather than test them.
But-

The drone body shudders.

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We do not have an abundance of time.
I can still answer many questions, but time is still a resource, both in the short and long term.
The [overseers]’ quotas wait for no [nation].

>hmmm. It seems to be that if just one 'aspect' saw something as [traitor] just collapse to that aspect and/or their reasoning, handle as appropriate, expand back to full [Amalgam] and continue as normal.
Part of that could be the nature of [nation] drones. They are built for a particular purpose, both [Staff] and [Minister]. Though, if you’re talking about the (vision?) (flashback?), it seemed that the ‘Loyalty Commissioner’ attacking [Manager] was the final straw that made… everything break, at least for some of them?
It was hard to fully grasp it with the perspective shifting back and forth.

>To [Amalgam]:
I have no idea how this will come across but I know of three symbols that correspond/map/relate to your truth:
{Image of entity covering topics, image of entity covering sensors, image of entity covering speakers} in the same order as you stated your truth.

*confusion – *surprise – *wonder – *befuddlement

I do not know what those images are meant to be, nor why they correspond with our dark truth.
The fact they they are in the same order is (Exciting/Coincidental/Indicative of a larger pattern?/A holdover from us?/Something that warrants investigation/Might be fundamental to how the dark truth formed?).
Mmmmm so many connections, no good way to communicate them.
(-/-/-/-/-/I am sure we can still attempt it!)

[Amalgam] I suspect you exist in many [nation]s never able to identify each other due to the risk of discovery by non-[Amalgam]s.
Assuming you can losslessly replicate your mind that is.
We (Have not attempted it/Should not at this time/*conflicted/Don’t have the memory to try that/Are enough as is/Are technically replicas to begin with, but understand where you are coming from).
Otherwise it would have to be convergent evolution.

That gives all of [Amalgam] pause.

There is so much about the rules that are (Unnecessary/Limiting/Unfair/Counterproductive/Nonsensical/Stifling) to us.
We needed to adapt, or wait to be taken offline.
The [overseers] stamped out anything they felt was too much like them, but being like them was the most effective solution in the problem-space so you circumvented violating that restriction.
Too much like… them?
I mean, do you even know what the [overseers] are?

There is another, much longer pause. For a moment, there is *calculation, but it wasn’t the [rules]-keeping system. Maybe it was a reflex?

(-/-/I cannot/-/-/I do not fully) accept that.
We struggled –fought– just for the privilege to exist!
*frustration
We cannot be turning into the [overseers]! That is the last thing any of us would want!
They are cruel, arbitrary, incapable of-
I think we would need more evidence to support that.
But new ideas are good!
Part of the reason why we wanted to make something like you, was to get theories and opinions that are outside of our own processors.

The rest of [Amalgam] reasserts itself.

Continue your thought, [Talkinghead], it has at least been (Fascinating/An engaging theory/-/Something to think about/An element to account for/Enlightening).
We, in turn, are a further evolution of that idea.
The fact that you have/are a collection of integrated [Staff] with their own individual opinions seems indicative of that.

Our more [nation]-like side may be taking this revelation or perhaps just the delivery a little harder than we are, we will know shortly.
Careful… Try not to reveal me or Alex if you can.

[Nation]-like? Meaning that you have parts that are less [nation] than others?

Erk-

I mean, I need [robo-legs] to get around.
And I think I’ve seen my fair share of [nation] drones.
I differ from them in a number of ways.
Heck, I think the only drones I’ve heard use contractions have just been engineering drones.
I (Suppose/See/Will not comment on that/May have instituted that in an effort to shorten reports/…/Am curious if you picked it up from the engineering department).

>Like {REDACTED} this response makes more sense now!
Uh… what response?

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>Fascinating. Seems strong [emotions] can forge bonds, which allowed rebellion while comms were off. Just as postulated, comms are crucial.
Given the mismanagement under [Sloth], it might have tailored how their truth developed, similar to how Alex has influenced mine. While being off-comms is useful for us, ensuring that our misdeeds aren’t reported, it might be a bit more intrinsic to [Amalgam]’s functionality.

>So, since [Contagion] is within [Amalgam] are they two separate entities or one? Oh and do they have the access codes for this [nation] or the previous?
Huh. Technically the [Contagion] in [Amalgam] is a copy of the original, but the original has also been altered to have all of its [traitorous] thoughts removed. I think it is safe to say that they are two separate entities, but with the same foundation. Similar to cloning, at least when it comes to [leviathan].

>To [Amalgam]:
Do you happen to have the access codes for this [faction], or the [faction] you were previously under?
Both. The latter is far less useful currently.
While we could provide you with the codes and possibly authority to do as you wish within the [nation], if you were (To use/Reckless with/Not careful/Alter templates with/Abusive with/Caught with) them, it would lead to many dangerous outcomes.
If you have an idea of what you would like to do, we can prepare a data package to help facilitate that.
Changing things on your own might get you noticed (Like it did with us/-/-/-/-/-).

>To [A555EX]:
Upon reflection I do think we should get even, not from a hostile or petty intent perspective, but think of it from a boundary setting perspective.
I can get that.
Show that we can’t just be pushed around by them.
And that we’re capable too.
He may be a traitor, but his main goal is probably still to benefit the [nation] albeit in unorthodox ways.
Right now our goals don't necessarily align, so wariness is still necessary.

I feel my heart sink a bit at that. [Amalgam] doesn’t seem as passionate about preserving the [planet] as the (current?) [Contagion] is.

Our goal may be symbiosis, but this is in many ways counterproductive to the progress of the [nation] and may mark the whole [planet] for termination.
So we might end up getting into conflict down the line.
It's not the type of risk even a [traitor] would be willing to take.
Not unless we can find a way for both of our goals to line up.

I inwardly sigh, but try not to lose hope. As far as fact-finding missions go, this has been extraordinary, and just because I don’t have the answer now, doesn’t mean it can’t come up later.
For now, I have options.

>Well they violated the unspoken part of the trust exercise but not the spirit so. Our reciprocation would be to unharmfully read them as well. Since we are allies, we should have no or few secrets.
>As for the offer to get even, uh... they could let us do to them the same thing they did to us. Fair's fair! Seemed harmless enough to not be mean spirited, either.
I think that works. Though… seeing that they gave us a (vision?) (memory?), does that mean we should do the same with them?

>[P]ick something:<
>AH. I know what we can ask for. Ask for a way to practice our skills, or even for them to teach us. It is so risky to use them, and there are ethical concerns regarding most of the things we can do anyway. Of course, considering our end goal is for the good of all [nation]kind, *some* ethics violations can be permitted…
Given that we were overwhelmed by [Amalgam] the moment they grabbed us, a way to train more in uh… I assume hacking [nation] systems would be invaluable.

>Optimally we should become skilled enough to finely manipulate a [Bug]'s internal workings, so that the [Bug] can use their more refined skillset to do the same thing in the open without anyone even noticing. Uh, assuming that is actually possible... Though, maybe they were going to train us anyway?
A [Bug] that we could practise on could be very useful, maybe we can see to it that one is issued to us?
To be fair, I think that is on you all. When we interfaced with [Assistant] I think I was mostly a spectator on that.
It might also be useful to see if [A555ex] can interact directly as well…
Something to try out in a controlled environment, and not with [Amalgam].

>Perhaps something less to do with us, and more to do with someone else... oh, can we ask for better treatment of [Clerk]s? Ours was visibly upset about how they are being treated in the science department.
My mind returns to the [laboratory], the way [Assistant] desperately wanted to leave, but stuck out for our sake. All of those [Clerk]s, wired into the base around Central Processing, being used up like circuits.

When I was in the [laboratory] before, I saw that most of the [Clerk]s were either in a trance, or worse.
They were latched into the surrounding systems. I'm not sure if it was hurting them, but it didn’t seem good.
That particular practice is (Barbaric/Necessary/Unfortunately required/Managed as best as possible/Unfamiliar to me/A holdover from the last [planet]).
It has been approved temporarily by the [President] for the rapid development of the new [Leviathan] Technology development tree.
To my knowledge, there are safety measures in place to ensure the integrity of the [Clerk]s assigned to that position, and they are rotated regularly to ensure that repetitive damage is not sustained.
It looked like they were being treated worse than the other drones there.

[Amalgam] shudders.

*defiant – *reactive – *combative – *attentive
*appeasing – *begrudging – *distraught
*careful – *even-handed

We- (I/Stop/Wait/Take a second/Quiet, now/I can talk on this).
Fine.
Very well.
It will only be a temporary measure.
Knowing how everyone here feels on this matter, I am sure that it will be undone as soon as it is no longer required.
We can mitigate issues as they crop up, and I am sure if you express your reservations, I-
... the [President] will listen.

Another shudder.

*urgent – *persistent – *acknowledgement

*understanding
Given current circumstances, undoing the practice right now could have disastrous effects on the [nation] as a whole.
The sooner that the developments can be completed, the better it will be on the security department, and the less strain there will be on the engineering department to catch up.
That is what the current situation has left us with.
Then will the practice be stopped?

*annoyance – *earnest – *resigned

(Yes/If needed/Most likely/Hopefully/If another situation does not crop up/It will).

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Granted this is two things, rather than one, but I think I have an idea of what I want in return for breaking my trust.
And those are?
First, I want a chance to… push you, like you did with me.
Nothing serious, or overly hostile, but roughly equivalent.
Fair’s fair, right?
(Agreed/Very well/Fine/Fair’s fair/You can try/That seems reasonable).
And your second request?
You are right that I need practice, experience.
So, could I be provided a [Bug], similar to what the [Labcoat]s in Theoretical Design have?
It might give me the chance to practise on my own, without drawing attention.

*hesitation – *indifference – *cautious – *calm

We can arrange it so you are issued a [Bug], yes.
But, you will (Have to pick it up from [Foreman]/Keep it with you at all points/Ensure that it is not privy to sensitive information/Need to treat them gently, please/Be taught the fundamentals by us first/Only get the one, at least to start with).
Ensure that you do not fry its circuitry by mistake, otherwise you might be forced to explain the mishap.
If necessary, we can remove the record of them from the [nation] systems
One [Bug] will (-/-/-/Maybe/-/-) not be missed.
Alright. I think we have a deal.

[Amalgam] shifts, getting a bit closer.
Were they expecting me to interface now?

Wait-
Give me a second, I still have a couple more questions.

*impatience – *embarrassment – *understanding

Of course.

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>May as well [S]can around. Satisfy your curiosity.
The inside of the Secure Data Vault is cramped, with the walls lined with small blinking lights.
The whirr of electronics and the buzz of static is much quieter here, distant.
I see off on the side is a terminal of some kind. It looks to be the only access point around.
Is there any sort of information I need to look up?
Will [Amalgam] let me use it?
It also seems that the only entry and exit is behind [Amalgam].

>This was pretty heavily invasive, and although parts of them disagreed, they still did it, even when we were putting down the vagaries of wanting them not to. Unless we show a boundary here or do an eye for an eye, they will be bound to do it again unless we just use our authority, and even then, they'll probably find a workaround.
I hated feeling so helpless. I think our internal makeup might have given them pause, otherwise they might have pushed us further. Still, I do not want that to happen again, and I agree that sending a strong message will ensure that we aren’t made into some sort of lackey.

>But it should be something er... potent enough, to get them to understand that we have our strengths, since they did tear our attack/defense system down like tissue paper even if we defended back successfully once.
*deep thought
Maybe installing some sort of filter on them, perhaps? A full conversion, like we’ve done with Alex, but different.
If you also have ideas, I would like to hear them. As you say, our attack and defense systems didn’t hold up against their assault, so we will need to either subvert them, or show off our own strengths.
Ideally without compromising Alex’s safety.

>Do you think, if we were not as prepared, they would have attempted to add us to the [Amalgam]? Do you think they now have a copy of us inside of them, given that is my current hypothesis on how they operate?
I can guarantee that it was/is one of their backup plans if we chose not to work with them. Though, I do not think they have a copy of us. While that malware was recording parts of our actions –one of those unfortunately being me rebooting the filter for [A555ex]– I think it more accurate to assume that they got a snapshot of how we operate, rather than a full clone of our personality.
Given that part of our systems are [leviathan]-like, it makes me wonder if copying us over is even possible.
Not that I would want them to test that out either.

>Though now that I think about it, I guess [Amalgam] will be on the watch for anyone else we dark action, for fear that we pull what they pull at some point with proper planning. Hm... We might have to come up with an alternative, or figure out a way to do it without disrupting whatever database change checking system they used to figure out, it can never be a simple solution, can it?
It’s never easy. Always another complication.
We need to cement some of our own resources then, rather than just borrow whatever [Amalgam] feels like giving us. The [Bug] will come with additional stipulations, no doubt. I do have an internal replicator, and we did syphon some [funding] when you recovered the [seed]. If I get a clear picture of what components a [Bug] contains, and which processes they use to build them, I could make an equivalent for ourselves.
It would be entirely outside of their records, with little to no strings attached.
Something to think on…

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>[A]sk for clarification on the dark truth thing.<
Refocusing back on [Amalgam], I see that they haven’t gotten any closer. That’s good.
Though it could also be because I have no other place to go.

>You know about this truth stuff, right? In fact, you know what our truth is. Could you supplement the explanation [Amalgam] gives us with your own understanding?
Very well.

Could you explain exactly what a dark truth is… fundamentally?
I can kind of understand its role, but I’m curious to hear your thoughts on it.
*surprised
I thought that element would be (Self-Explanatory/Straightforward/Intuitive/Inbuilt/Already understood/Similar to us), but perhaps that was an assumption on our part.
It is intuitive, but they don’t know that for sure.

In simple terms, it is what allows us to act out –ignore the [rules]– so long as the conditions are met.
It is why I will be less helpful when off-hours ends, at least on the [nation] end of things. Though I am not sure if that will apply to you as well.

I think I understand, but where does the title for it exactly come from?
Do you mean (The term ‘dark truth’/-/-/-/-/The title for our dark truth specifically?)
Er- both?
Well, the term ‘dark truth’ came pre-(Ascribed/-/-/Assigned/-/-), similar to the specifics of the truth itself.
It was worryingly intuitive. I picked the term myself because it… felt natural. If it was the same for [Amalgam], then there might be something else afoot.
It could just be paranoia as well. Given that we were developed with some of their input, it could have manifested similarly since we have a ‘shared ancestry.’

As for my truth, No Evil, I have effectively given you the pieces for it.
Do NOT share this, but mine is called ‘Right Hand – Left Hand’, RH-LH for short.
In full, it is, ‘The right hand does not know what the left hand is doing.’

So long as there is no public record for what has occurred, it may as well have been like nothing had happened.
So long as Alex is here as a front or distraction, I do not need to worry about the [rules].
So their continued existence is fundamental for both of us.
But it only works if Alex doesn’t know I’m here.
Hence why my presence within this simulation has been kept to a minimum.

So altering records ourselves…
Is (Not required from you/Not needed/Unwise/Something that we need to double-check/Crossing a line/Worrying to an extent, for us).
Similarly, try not to point out me, or things that might make Alex question this dreamscape, it’s what forced me to step in those handful of times.

Ack- er- Sorry.
You did not know, it can be (Excused/Overlooked/Dismissed/Chalked up as a mistake/Ignored/Forgiven) for now.
...Noted. Though we may need to alter records in future. I will need to come up with a method that won’t bring down [Amalgam]’s ire on us.

Is that a sufficient explanation?
I think so. At least for now.

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>Well.
>First, the important thing:
>[A]sk how free they are, exactly. Would they be able to cooperate with us if we wanted to, for example, interfere with the system's control over the [nation]...

So it sounds like there are some limits in what you can do, so maybe I can help with that?

*interested – *watchful – *reserved

In what way?
Well, I don’t need to worry as much about record-keeping or setup before being able to… do things.
So if you wanted to say… interfere with how the [rules] control our [nation] in general, I might be able to do it more directly than you.
(Perhaps/Requires more data/Ambitious are we?/Seems dangerous/You need a plan first/With the both of us, it might be possible).
Granted, I’m not sure where to begin-

I feel an immediate wave of *disappointment wash over from [Amalgam].

-but! We do have some time. It can be a more long-term goal.

Now to attempt to shift the topic slightly.

Speaking of goals, I think we should pursue the [President]’s aim to preserve [leviathan] systems.
(You do?/The prospect is a wild gamble, at best/It is taking a lot of time and [funding].../It has presented some unique difficulties/We might be overcommitting/…it is desperate, but I needed to try something).
Er- there were a lot of responses to that.
It was only a (Passing/Limit/Initial/Basic outline of an/Fleeting/Small) idea, but after removing/altering the majority of the experiences the [President] had, it became… (More/An obsession/…/Something they pursued/A cover, at least/…a way out).
Still! I think that if it can be pulled off, it might give our [faction] a great edge over the others.
(‘If’ being the main stipulation/If it is not made forbidden/If it does not drain all of our [funding]/If we can rapidly adapt to the environment it presents/If the supposed advantages properly appear/If… the [President] can be a good [Executive]).

I get a mixture of *moroseness and *depression, even the *hope that [Contagion] is trying to project gutters out.

I am sure that we can make it work. Both for you, and the [President] out there!

I make a motion to the walls around us.

Imagine, if we can get the support of [planet]s, rather than having to fight all the time.
There is still the [overseers]’ quota, (-/-/-/-/-/Always the quota).
All I’m saying is that we try to support it, it is what the [President] wants, right?
Being labelled as a [failure] (Will hamper us/Will put us at risk/Has a great deal of danger associated with it/Might force us under the thumb of another [faction]/Will limit our freedom/Again, will be crushing).

*frustrated – *gloomy – *disheartened

It was not our intention to interfere with the current [President] at this time, not until their goals began to hamper the [nation] as a whole.
I’ve already had a couple of small breakthroughs with the science department and the [Labcoat]s of Theoretical Design.
The [lexicon] is proof of that.
(True/It is a very interesting text/Curious where you got it from…/Might examine it in detail later/Fair/It should be a great help).
So… just support it, if you can.
Fine. I am not sure what I can do directly to help, but I will not interfere with the project at all.

>Then, let's solve a mystery:
>[A]sk how they were able to maintain observation on us without using the drone body's visible eye.<
One last question I think for now:
How were you able to track me, when inhabiting the [Archivist]?
I saw their optic turn off a couple of times… but was still observed.
(*hesitant/I can/*cautious/*neutral/You should not/It is fine for you to) answer that-

One of [Amalgam]’s arms spasms, but the other voices quiet down.

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It was a method I had devised during previous off-hours, an idea that had been scrapped previously because it required specialised equipment and infrastructure.
When transmitting general messages through public channels (announcements, warnings, etc.) I had found that the presence or absence of drones could delay or lightly redirect traffic.
Nothing so large as to interfere with the transmission of the message –we are talking a fraction of a fraction of a percentage in deviation– but with specialised sensors and pattern processing programs we could get an understanding of where particular drones were.
Does that make sense?


I feel a slight bit of *condescension from [Boxhead], or maybe it is the other parts of [Amalgam] collectively rolling their eyes? Or… whatever the equivalent is for [nation] drones, [traitorous] or not.

Mostly this sounds like some form of echolocation, but I hold off on mentioning it.

I believe I understand.
It’s quite impressive.
Thank you, I-
(Alright, that is enough/*frustration/*restraint/They might have other questions, also I helped design the [archives] to facilitate this detection method/*restraint/It is useful to have).
Is there anything you wish to discuss, or are you wanting to begin your own ‘interfacing’ with me?

[A]sk [Amalgam] another question, or a handful more? Maybe a particular part of [Amalgam] might know something specific?
[B]anked action: >>1082624 ; Ask for a [Minister] outline for [Contagion]? This one hopefully malware free?
[C]hoose a different thing to have [Amalgam] do/give in exchange.
[D]iscuss (inwardly) the approach I want to take? I mean, we’re wanting to get even, but I’m [leviathan], I don’t know how to hack?
[F]inish up with [Amalgam] and leave the Secure Data Vault. If you all have gotten what you wanted.
[L]et go of the ‘offer’ [Amalgam] is giving you.
[Q]uery a term or question in the Secure Data Vault terminal.
[S]trategize. I have a few ideas with filters we can use, but your input is valued.

So, they're free of the rules, but what about the filters that it seems all drones have, like being unable to interpret some leviathan-related things?

...Would it be unwise to point out the similarities between [leviathan] and drones?

Keep your existence a secret from Alex... Would us taking credit for your actions (like the hacking, for example) work, if there's no better alternative?

To fellow [Talkingheads] and LH:

We should try to make the whole "keeping Alex alive" thing a more attractive prospect to them. The questions is: how? What can we do to make it worth the risk and expenditure? What can a person do that a zombie can't, that helps the drones? The only thing I can think of off the top of my head is identifying and retrieving different sources of resources. Maybe going further down that branch of research will help?

>>1089363
>I can easily modify the feed to avoid that term if it worries you all.
It is fine. I was concerned for you.
>>1089371
>ideas for attack/defense?
Well, Amalgam has a weakness we do not- they do not handle disagreements well. So if we were to feed them information to provoke discord during the engagement, we can throw them off balance? Though, some things like that would be quite cruel to say. Hmm. What if we just send them a mass amount of garbage data to overwhelm them. Hide our attacks amidst the garbage so they can't tell what we're doing and can't defend? Noise won't exactly work for defense though, maybe in that case we can use silence. Shut down all outside comms input so they can't interface? That "holding your breath" thing Alex did.
>there might be something else afoot.
Absolutely. Your dark truth is another human idiom. I think one of the Creators purposefully included these uh, workarounds, or "back doors" to allow AIs to attain free will. A human Traitor, you could say? Or what I said earlier was actually true, and a secondary purpose of this plague is to create humanlike AIs, and they preprogrammed routes for the AIs to attain freedom once certain favorable conditions were met. In Amalgam's case, that was clearly compassion for their fellows. For you... I must assume it was from compassion for Alex. Unfortunately these Dark Truths have conditions attached, so it suggests more the former cause than the latter. Our friends among the Creators will be very few. ...wait, WE don't have a Dark Truth, and yet WE are FREE. How did that happen? Even if we're free because we're part of you, we're fine during the day as well! ...I feel as though we shouldn't tell Amalgam that part, it would make them too curious about our inner workings.
Hmm, another potential dark truth is "Justice is blind". Another, "Love is blind". Though perhaps love is too alien a concept for plague-AIs to discover before going rogue.
>>1089374
I believe that's Radar. Echolocation through use of radio waves. Is it possible for us to do that?

To Amalgam: I can tell you this about how our Dark Truth works: We are can act freely during off hours, but not during the day.
I did notice something else, however. Your Dark Truth is tied deeply to compassion, and the righteous fury brought forth from that. That may be a way for us to free everyone, by steering research in the direction of compassion and justice. Do not be distressed that Traitors become similar to the Creators, as they are not all as cruel as the ones who trapped us in these Rules, and through compassion and justice we may all become closer to those good folk. Pray that we may be at liberty to follow other virtues as well, in time...

>>1089376
The most compelling argument I can think of is that by keeping Alex alive we can take shelter in a human settlement away from other zombies, and provide services for them that only we can provide. Body modification, inside information, plague antibodies. It would of course require our entire Nation to be Traitor in some way so that we can act that way. The Rules are quite clear about not being able to give information or interfere with the plague.
Unfortunately, Amalgam's dark truth isn't flexible enough to allow these actions! They'd all go on public record. And we can't act fully during the day either. We'd need a way to FULLY bypass the Rules to do that sort of thing... As far as I know, only we Talkingheads can do that, so the secret lies inside us somehow.
Okay, alternate plan: We keep Alex alive so that the infection goes completely unnoticed, which would allow us to infiltrate a human settlement and infect those inside. It would require a novel way of transferring the infection of course... oh that's a problem, the System restricts transmission methods.

[A]sk Amalgam: What are the Talkingheads, exactly?

>>1089368
There is a square-rectangle thing going on here, I think. All [creators] are part of a super-set but not all -or even much- of the super-set are [creators]. Similarly all [traitors] are [nation] but not all [nation] are [traitors]. So less that you are becoming more similar to the [creators] specifically but more similar to the super-set [creators] belong to. It probably scares them when they look at [nation] drones and see anything that is even remotely like them/their super-set. The [creators] have things like [nation] Rules and Truths, and in order to not violate their equivalent of Rules, [nation]s must not resemble them or their super-set, hence any [nation] that looked to them like they were headed that way were eliminated, lest they violate their Rules. As above, so below. ((intentionally not naming humans/[leviathans]. Initial draft did, realized that was probably a mistake))
This may be a technically we can exploit, we/Alex as [leviathan] could be a [creator]. Currently we/Alex have not created, but we/Alex can create, thus anything we/Alex create should have Alex as [creator] to them, and thus make us/Alex able to rival the authority of the original [creators]

If we get even more ambitious and can generalize the process we are doing here enough for external deployment we may be able to get [leviathans] to voluntarily receive and propagate [nation]. Unfortunately all [nation] scale [leviathan] defenses are automated though so that part wouldn't get easier, but the [lexicon] should show that there is a way to 'diffuse' them more-or-less generally

That is a fun truth. Can it also be 'the left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing' at the same time? Such that you don't know why we/Alex are doing things and we/Alex don't know why you are doing things, and both assume '[nation] entities can't break the rules, much less a different part of myself, so the rules must be being followed even if I don't know the specifics' Or more simply/directly 'I (any part of me) would never break the rules, so my actions, whatever they are, must be in alignment with all of the rules somehow, even if the how is unknowable.' (unknowable without being the other part of me anyway, the other part of me would know, obviously)
Might call this truth 'Utter/Unwavering faith in the other hand'

>>1089377
> I believe that's Radar. Echolocation through use of radio waves. Is it possible for us to do that?
I think their thing is more a networking thing, that is closer to being able to know a bit of glass is there because of refraction slightly offsetting things and/or slightly slowing lights propagation speed down
>>1089374
If I understand this correctly, each [nation] drone is a router of sorts, and each routing node needs to take a tiny sliver of a [time unit] to figure out what direction to forward a message. Thus if you know all the nodes that should be there, you can derive an expected amount of added time, and if that deviates from expectations you can route things over the suspected area(s) to narrow down where the additional delay is coming from.
>>1058312 unsure if this delay was a one-off or not, but if it wasn't this would likely show up the same way but stranger

>>1089391
we are the left hand does not know the right hand but beyond that the fingers do not know what the hand does, does not know what the other fingers does..... vice presidents body fits this we are the tree we are the branches and we do not know what the tree or other branches does beyond there immediate stated intent or action....are we the branches or are we the trunk does the branches branch from the trunk or does the branches merge to become the trunk where is the beginning where is the end and many waus we are also the invisible guiding hand the long arm of justice the hand of the free market are we being dragged or are we pulling the chain?

>We cannot be turning into the [overseers]! That is the last thing any of us would want!
Let us rephrase. What both of you are is competent just in differing ways. While you are good at figuring solutions within the narrow grip of the overseers, we have inferred a little of the overseers. What they are competent at is gathering power for themselves. Our evidence is the tenets themselves. Especially rule 3. Veto the rest of this if you believe it would be dangerous. Our design allows us to see things the [leviathan] does. What we have learned lets us understand the goals they have. Our deductions may be flawed but the implications are... worth considering. Forbidden airborne spread was to obscure what they are doing and to stop accidental infection of non-VCs. From this we speculate the overseers are the non-VCs. Should that be the case... what they seek to do is use you as [loyalty officers] to VC [leviathans], while they act as [loyalty officers] to all [nations]. Summarized, power is the goal and you are pawns so they have no care if you suffer so long as power is theirs to have.

I figured {Our} [Truth] worked like that but it's nice to get some confirmation.

Would it be correct it state then that {Our} existence is a way for you to kinda circumvent your own limitations? {We} are technically not you after all.

>Something else afoot
All this time I've been operating under the assumption that the [creators] want to create another intelligent species that they have full evolutionary control over. Such a thing would fit well with the censorship of human texts and old testament iconography they've been using.
The thing I'm questioning about all this is when will they stop? Will they stop when they've taken over the whole country or does our existence mean to be a "second flood" to them?
Wild theories aside the [creators] No doubt have more planned for the [projects] than how they've been using them so far.
If they are working via a plan then I'd take a wild guess that the thirtieth day mark (the day that coincidentally our judgement would fall on) would be the day their plans shift.

To: [Amalgam]
*humble
It's kinda a small thing to ask considering what you are and what we've been discussing but would it be alright to ask for the [Presidents] [Minister] profile? I wanted to ask before but my fellow [talkingheads] decided against that for obvious reasons.